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 Post subject: Re: A Mental TROLL Thread
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:09 am 
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Is MG off the porn again?

Seems he has a little too much pent up frustration!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:20 am 
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Hey MG, ____ off eh?


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 Post subject: Re: A History of Jo's Spiritual Wifeism
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:37 am 
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This is from the original thread pre-troll-trashing, I just wanted to note it here again:
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Now I and Mike Marquardt just submitted an article to the John Whitmer Historical Association on Baptism for the Dead, which they accepted and will be published in their Spring, 2017 Journal. Here is what the editor said:

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As you can see in the attached summary of reviewers' comments, the paper was favorably regarded and will be accepted for the Spring 2017 issue of the Journal. However, the second reviewer's comment about parallels in the surrounding milieu seem pertinent, and it would be helpful if you would address some of this perspective as the paper currently suggests that the change arose exclusively from inside. At any rate, congratulations on an excellent manuscript, and I look forward to receiving a mild revision in the near future.


There were only five short paragraphs of suggestions and two were mentions of typos. Here is some of what the reviewer said,

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The writing is lucid, logical, consistent, and clean, and the notes are particularly easy to understand. ... this paper is impressively objective in its treatment of the sources it chooses to address.



Congratulations on your pending publication, grindael! Well done. Very, very well done!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:59 am 
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Red Ryder wrote:
Is MG off the porn again?

Seems he has a little too much pent up frustration!

Maybe spotlight's bolding (which mental will confuse with capitalization) will catch his easily distracted eye and he'll wonder off in search of some CAPS to satisfy himself with. Anybody have some really juicy CAPITALIZATION they can add to his porn thread? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Really, though, what is his point? He harped on and on, destroying 5 threads last night, copying grindael's work with slightly different emphasis once or twice, but not the same difference each time, just seemingly random changes. One time mental changed the font just because the words were, as he put it, "near" grindael's original emphases. He never once, however, actually made a point as to what his actual issue was, or what different hypothesis he had about the writings. He actually didn't even express any opinion at all about the quotes, the writings, or grindael's hypothesis. He just trolled.

He did do the typical mentalgymnast move when he got cornered and asked others to tell him what his own point was. So predictable. Oh, and several more reminders that he has done years and years of research. He's never produced any that I've seen, but he has told the board many, many times how much research he's done.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:43 am 
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He's still at it. Enjoy folks!

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 Post subject: Re: A History of Jo's Spiritual Wifeism
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:44 am 
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Seems Mental just doesn't like people who don't believe in Joseph Smith so he has to TROLL them... Sad, really.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:46 am 
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Well Mental Asshole now has FIVE Troll threads ... because I'm not going to have his stupid, inane comment that has nothing to do with Joseph's Spiritual Wifeism on MY thread. Keep it up, Asshole, you only show you're the consummate TROLL and LIAR.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:47 am 
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Yeah, what he said you LYIN' TROLL.

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 Post subject: Re: Mentalgymnast TROLL Thread (1)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:08 pm 
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EAT MORE beef rather than more CHICKEN MEAT.
- Message presented by chickens united.
- Emphasis provided by dishonest cows.

EAT MORE BEef rather thAN more chicken meat.
- People reading this will subconsciously eat more beans.

EAT mORE beef rather than mOre chicken meat.
- Those who read this will run to the store to pick up some oreo cookies.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:28 pm 
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spotlight wrote:
EAT MORE beef rather than more CHICKEN MEAT.
- Message presented by chickens united.
- Emphasis provided by dishonest cows.

EAT MORE BEef rather thAN more chicken meat.
- People reading this will subconsciously eat more beans.

EAT mORE beef rather than mOre chicken meat.
- Those who read this will run to the store to pick up some oreo cookies.

:lol: :lol: well there you have it. The secrets of emphatic capitalizing unmasked!!


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 Post subject: Re: A History of Jo's Spiritual Wifeism
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:30 pm 
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grindael:

Thanks for the comments, people.

Note: Since Shades is away and I will have to wait to get all this TROLL stuff resolved, I will be posting Part II as soon as that happens.

MG:

I hope you get something more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pats on the back. Yay.

BTW, loser, we are already well aware that you don't believe in the Divine calling of Joseph Smith...so what's your point in preaching to the choir? You already know you're gonna just get high fives. So what's your point? Much ado about nothing, isn't it?

Not that the history isn't interesting in some respects.

That's it? It's just interesting? That's what drives you?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm 
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mentalgymnast wrote:
....something... Pats on.... Yay.

BTW, [I am such a] loser... [I speak for NO ] we ...so ....gonna .... So ...? [I, mentalgymnast, am the epitome of] much ado about nothing....

Not... isn't... in some .... That's...It's ....That's .....

MG

Hey mental, remember about three trolled threads back, when you said you wouldn't troll anymore of grindael's threads on this topic? Or maybe the thread last summer, when you just couldn't take how negative people were, and you pretended to be above all that? Integrity is really not your thing, is it? But name calling is, apparently.

Quoting Red Ryder, "Hey MG, ____ off eh?"


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mentalgymnast wrote:

MG:

I hope you get something more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pats on the back. Yay.

BTW, loser, we are already well aware that you don't believe in the Divine calling of Joseph Smith...so what's your point in preaching to the choir? You already know you're gonna just get high fives. So what's your point? Much ado about nothing, isn't it?

Not that the history isn't interesting in some respects.

That's it? It's just interesting? That's what drives you?

MG


Man, you are one creepy dude. Nothing better to do than stalk me? You are just being super creepy now.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:31 pm 
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grindael wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:

MG:

I hope you get something more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pats on the back. Yay.

BTW, loser, we are already well aware that you don't believe in the Divine calling of Joseph Smith...so what's your point in preaching to the choir? You already know you're gonna just get high fives. So what's your point? Much ado about nothing, isn't it?

Not that the history isn't interesting in some respects.

That's it? It's just interesting? That's what drives you?

MG


Man, you are one creepy dude. Nothing better to do than stalk me? You are just being super creepy now.

He does get creepy. Just be glad he's not pondering out loud on how ugly it might get if he meets up with you IRL, like he did with me. Maybe he just saves that for when he trolls women.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:58 pm 
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Lemmie wrote:
He does get creepy. Just be glad he's not pondering out loud on how ugly it might get if he meets up with you IRL, like he did with me. Maybe he just saves that for when he trolls women.


You and grindael are a real pair. Tag team.

I came into his/this thread and asked him a question. Which, of course, doesn't get answered. BTW, I asked you a few questions recently. They remain unanswered. You simply show up to cause a ruckus. You rarely actually involve yourself in the substance of the conversation.

Kudos on your 'stealth' tactics and mental maneuvering in doing so. One would almost think you're not trolling. :wink:

Gotta hand it to you Lemmie. grindael and you know how to sing a duet. And you always show up together on time.

Again, I ask a sincere question in this thread...and this is what I get?

Don't take the fact that I called him a 'loser' get in the way. Just calling it like it is. (Loser: a person or thing that loses or has lost something and/or is doomed to fail or disappoint)

BTW, my sense of integrity is intact. As I assume yours is also?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:05 pm 
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grindael wrote:
He's still at it. Enjoy folks!


It is quite entertaining. Oh, BTW, if you haven't noticed...you're still at it too. :wink:

I think I've about run the course though. You can have thread number seven all to yourself and hopefully get all the high fives that you deserve. You've had a few already...but not much else in the way of substantive responses. Except for mine, of course. :smile:

Carry on. The thread...well, your new and not improved one...is yours.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:40 pm 
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mentalCREEP wrote:

You and grindael are a real pair. Tag team.

I came into his/this thread and asked him a question. Which, of course, doesn't get answered. BTW, I asked you a few questions recently. They remain unanswered. You simply show up to cause a ruckus. You rarely actually involve yourself in the substance of the conversation.

Kudos on your 'stealth' tactics and mental maneuvering in doing so. One would almost think you're not trolling. :wink:

Gotta hand it to you Lemmie. grindael and you know how to sing a duet. And you always show up together on time.

Again, I ask a sincere question in this thread...and this is what I get?

Don't take the fact that I called him a 'loser' get in the way. Just calling it like it is. (Loser: a person or thing that loses or has lost something and/or is doomed to fail or disappoint)

BTW, my sense of integrity is intact. As I assume yours is also?

MG


Wow, you are delusional. You were answered in the first of your TROLL threads. And it was YOU who "showed up". I was minding my own business and you got all bent out of shape because you don't like the fact that I emphasize certain parts of quotes. I explained why three or four times. If you are so damn stupid that you can't comprehend that, well, that's on you dude. And your comment wasn't sincere. Not in the least. It was an accusation. You then went on about trickery. You then denigrated the Tanners. On and on. Nothing to do with Jo's spiritual wifeism except saying that what I wrote was a "stretch". (That's all you could muster up that was original). It was my bad for once again falling into your TROLL trap. Because that it all you do. TROLL. I don't know how you live with yourself. I'm friends with lots of Mormons and they are a far cry from what you are, a liar and a TROLL. Do you teach this stuff to your Sunday School class?

Now you are doing what you do best, WHINING. Your question in THIS thread, doesn't deserve an answer. It's ____ creepy like you are. It would be like me asking you what the hell motivates you to continue to stalk and troll me. Thing is, I don't give a rat's ass. If you want to be a CREEP, hey, be one. I'm sure you feel right at home being that way. All this jealousy. It really is hilarious. You wouldn't know what integrity was if it bitch slapped you in the face. Yeah, saying TWICE that you would stop TROLLING my thread and then doing it anyway. Six times now you have TROLLED my thread. You call that integrity? :lol: You just said AGAIN you would leave it alone. I doubt you will keep your word because you have no idea what the word INTEGRITY means. When it comes down to it, you get right down in the mud, don't you Mental? All those platitudes about how great Mormonism is, and really, you're nothing but a hypocrite. What a ____ poster child you are for the church.

I don't claim to be any kind of Saint. I swear, I joke and enjoy life. Unlike you, I keep my word. You have no idea what that means. I saw your phony ____ years ago and you know what? Nothing's changed. Your still a lazy copy and paster who relies on getting everything from everyone else. Nothing you do is original. You are spoon fed on FAIRMORMON and the "faithful" line of BS. You just showed it again when you put up that FAIRMORMON BS about the Tanners. I've debunked that ____ over and over again. But you'll believe it because that is what you WANT to believe. Integrity? My dog's POOP has more than you do. And I'm sure it smells better, too.

I really feel sorry for the kids that have to be around you. It must suck to be them and have to put up with such a CREEP.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:14 pm 
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grindael wrote:
Wow, you are delusional. You were answered in the first of your TROLL threads. And it was YOU who "showed up". I was minding my own business and you got all bent out of shape because you don't like the fact that I emphasize certain parts of quotes. I explained why three or four times. If you are so damn stupid that you can't comprehend that, well, that's on you dude. And your comment wasn't sincere. Not in the least. It was an accusation. You then went on about trickery. You then denigrated the Tanners. On and on. Nothing to do with Jo's spiritual wifeism except saying that what I wrote was a "stretch". (That's all you could muster up that was original). It was my bad for once again falling into your TROLL trap. Because that it all you do. TROLL. I don't know how you live with yourself. I'm friends with lots of Mormons and they are a far cry from what you are, a liar and a TROLL. Do you teach this stuff to your Sunday School class?

Now you are doing what you do best, WHINING. Your question in THIS thread, doesn't deserve an answer. It's **** creepy like you are. It would be like me asking you what the hell motivates you to continue to stalk and troll me. Thing is, I don't give a rat's ass. If you want to be a CREEP, hey, be one. I'm sure you feel right at home being that way. All this jealousy. It really is hilarious. You wouldn't know what integrity was if it bitch slapped you in the face. Yeah, saying TWICE that you would stop TROLLING my thread and then doing it anyway. Six times now you have TROLLED my thread. You call that integrity? :lol: You just said AGAIN you would leave it alone. I doubt you will keep your word because you have no idea what the word INTEGRITY means. When it comes down to it, you get right down in the mud, don't you Mental? All those platitudes about how great Mormonism is, and really, you're nothing but a hypocrite. What a **** poster child you are for the church.

I don't claim to be any kind of Saint. I swear, I joke and enjoy life. Unlike you, I keep my word. You have no idea what that means. I saw your phony **** years ago and you know what? Nothing's changed. Your still a lazy copy and paster who relies on getting everything from everyone else. Nothing you do is original. You are spoon fed on FAIRMORMON and the "faithful" line of BS. You just showed it again when you put up that FAIRMORMON BS about the Tanners. I've debunked that **** over and over again. But you'll believe it because that is what you WANT to believe. Integrity? My dog's POOP has more than you do. And I'm sure it smells better, too.

I really feel sorry for the kids that have to be around you. It must suck to be them and have to put up with such a CREEP.


And there you have it folks. I'm scum. I'm sitting in my living room with the Christmas tree lights blinking on the tree on wondering to myself whether this grindael chap is spot on and I am a di**wad. After all these years of thinking I was a man of integrity, and here I am...sitting at the feet of a sage and he can see right through me. Everything I've ever believed about myself/others and the church is crap. :wink: :wink:

Thanks grindael. :cry: You are a destroyer of faith and a sayer of sooth. Your words are the gold standard of integrity and truth. Except when your potty mouth runs over...but I digress.

All right, you've got the last word. I can see that we're just not going to be friends. Like I said, you can have your #7 thread all to yourself. I won't ask any questions or make any comments.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:25 pm 
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mentalgymnast wrote:
BTW, I asked you a few questions recently. They remain unanswered.

Of course they do. You have made far too many creepy, ugly innuendos in the last year about what might happen were you to meet up with me IRL, about my IRL work, and about me as a women. I do not take seriously any questions you might ask of me.

mentalgymnast, troll thread 1, promising not to troll, wrote:
If it helps, I'll bow out at this point if you want me to. I made my point earlier.
mentalgymnast, troll thread 3, promising not to troll, wrote:
I won't "troll" ... another thread.
mentalgymnast, troll thread 3, promising not to troll, wrote:
I think I've said my piece.
mentalgymnast, troll thread 6, AGAIN promising not to troll, wrote:
I think I've about run the course though. You can have thread number seven all to yourself

mentalgymnast, troll thread 6, after more trolling, YET AGAIN promises not to troll, wrote:
Like I said, you can have your #7 thread all to yourself.

mentalgymnast, ironically, wrote:
BTW, my sense of integrity is intact.

Your sense of it may be intact, but your actual integrity clearly is not.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:00 pm 
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Actions speak louder than words, ____. I might have a "pottymouth" but that's nothing on you. You're whining is fascinating. You will dish it out, but you can't take it. You play the passive-aggressive game like a pro. I don't ____ around with that ____. I just listened to Rachel Maddow play a Trump clip where he was talking about closing off the internet because some mysterious "they" were LOSING the battle. Like him, you lost but can’t accept it. All the control freaks in the world like LDS, Inc. can never get it back, and neither can Donald Trump. Like all the rest of the bigots in history he will be forgotten as a minor mistake as the United States shakes him and his ilk off and goes on being great. The US destroyed the twin relics of barbarism, like it was nothing. The US survived the Civil War and ENDED the slave trade. We have a ways to go, (cause there are still lots of bigots like your phony “Prophets” and “Apostles” out there) but we are getting there.

We don't need to be "great again". We already are. Your founding fathers hated the US. We STILL don't need the false morality and the hypocrisy or the ____ BYU "honor" code. Like the Mormon "Prophets" false prophecies about the destruction of the U.S. and the supremacy of Mormonism, that "prophecy" has been put to bed. Everything about Mormonism is built on a lie.

You're a ____ hypocrite, who, like Trump can't seem to control yourself when it comes to keeping your word or keeping yourself from the keyboard. But then, why should you when you’re an anonymous TROLL? Everything about you is made up. The phony platitudes just get old fast.

No one takes your faith away, you do that all by yourself. I have lots of conversations with Mormons who have NEVER whined about me like you do. What ____ difference does it make that I posted what I did? Why would you care if I were just “playing to the choir”? I’m so far above your comprehension that it must really bug you that you can’t figure me out. Thing is, I’ve explained all my reasons for what I do, and why I do it, on many threads. But you don’t know that, because you’re just a TROLL who is too lazy to really read AND COMPREHEND. You focus on minutia, and are only here to derail discussions. You can take your fake “regards” and shove them up your phony ass.

Thing is, after quite a few years of reading YOUR posts, you've made who you are perfectly clear. I met a lot of Happy Valley scumbags like you when I lived in Utah. The Hypocrites. The liars who were only deceiving themselves. I don't hide behind anonymity, you do. You come here because deep down, you're just an arrogant little creep who (laughingly) thinks that your FAIRMORMON retreads will make some kind of difference here. But hey, it's a free country so knock yourself out.

Friendship is earned, ____. Too many times I've been on the receiving end of your snide putdowns. What do you have to offer in relation to Mormonism? Nothing at all. I can read anything that you come up with on the internet. I don’t need another copy machine.

I just watched Mitt Romney gushing about Trump. After he called him a con-artist, a phony and a danger to the nation and the world. Another great poster boy for Mormonism. You can't make this ____ up. :eek: You are two peas in a pod.

I'm done with you Mental. You can take this to the bank. I won't ever post on another thread you start. But if you start with me on MY threads, the gloves are off. You can rant and rave and play all the passive aggressive games and copy other people's work all you like. If you want to start a thread about me or my posts, go right ahead. Have at it. I just have to wipe this ____ ____ off my shoe. It stinks to high heaven.

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Hi guys..I will be the first to admit that I haven't read everything here; that being said, I feel bad that post after post is dedicated to the nonsense of mental....I have enjoyed grindael's posts..very interesting and I learn so much which leads to more questions for him and others here. What a shame that we are stuck on this. In any case, I just wanted grindael to know how much I value him here. I am kind of still new but always looks for the info he provides. Here is hoping we can settle all of this. If mentalgymnastics has a problem, he should provide something that is relevant and important...not all of this stuff. We all want to emphasize our thoughts and mental could do this too...he just needs some real thoughts on a subject! :rolleyes: Anyway..should grindael ever decide not to post..(which I hope not)...I will be very disappointed. I don't always contribute, but try to read often here. Hugs to this board!


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