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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:23 pm 
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I'm not sure if the map will show up but if not you can see the map here

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Archeological Evidence of the Fortified Cities by the East Sea



I will be using the Hopewell mound fortifications found in New York State and Pennsylvania for archeological evidence for the fortifications described in Alma Chapter 50 and refortified in Alma Chapter 52. E.G Sqiuer and Charles Whitney described these fortifications before many of the sites were destroyed by farmers and settlers in the 18th and 19the century. First is a visual description of as described in the Book of Mormon and a comparison between Charles Whitney and E.G Squiers descriptions.



Moroni needs to prepare the Nephite territories from consistence attacks by the Lamanites. One area in particular needs particular attention that would be the east wilderness. Through the Niagra isthmus the Lamanites would have access to the Land Northward Bountiful and Jershon. Moroni (Alma Chapter 50) clears out the Lamanites from the east wilderness and has the Nephites occupy the land and build fortifications. Moroni (Alma Chapter 52) refortifies the area from attack.





7 And it came to pass that Moroni caused that his armies should go forth into the east wilderness; yea, and they went forth and drove all the Lamanites who were in the east wilderness into their own lands, which were south of the land of Zarahemla.

9 And it came to pass that when Moroni had driven all the Lamanites out of the east wilderness, which was north of the lands of their own possessions, he caused that the inhabitants who were in the land of Zarahemla and in the land round about should go forth into the east wilderness, even to the borders by the seashore, and possess the land.

10 And he also placed armies on the south, in the borders of their possessions, and caused them to erect fortifications that they might secure their armies and their people from the hands of their enemies.

Alma 52

9 And he also sent orders unto him that he should fortify the land Bountiful, and secure the narrow pass which led into the land northward, lest the Lamanites should obtain that point and should have power to harass them on every side.

These are the descriptions of the fortifications that the Nephites built



Concerning this line of fortifications Charles Whittlesey said: That they formed a well occupied line, constructed either to protect the advance of a nation landing from the lake (Lake Erie) and moving southward for conquest; or, a line of resistance for a people inhabiting these shores and pressed upon by their southern neighbors. (Quoted in R. Silverberg, Mound Builders of Ancient America, p. 116.)



E.G Sqier stated: System of Defenses extending from the sources of the Allegheny and Susquehanna in New York, diagonally across the country, through central and northern Ohio, to the Wabash. (Ancient Monuments, p. 44.)



Charles second description for the reasoning behind these fortifications matches the reasoning for Moroni to build these fortifications. The Lamanites attacked from the areas south of these fortifications or the lower part of New York state. Moroni secured the land northward and a second entry in the land Bountiful.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:26 pm 
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Too bad all you have is parallel mania, and nothing that actually associates the Hopewell culture with the Book of Mormon.

In fact, archeological, geographical, anthropological, linguistic, and dna evidence all disallow for the Hopewell having anything to do with the Book of Mormon. They lack literacy, coins, any evidence of hebrew or Christian religious practices, horses, horse tack, chariots, steel swords, etc etc etc.

Keep trying though. Your Book of Mormon setting ideas seem about as reliable as bgood's constant impending cataclysm.

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Too bad all you have is parallel mania, and nothing that actually associates the Hopewell culture with the Book of Mormon.

In fact, archeological, geographical, anthropological, linguistic, and dna evidence all disallow for the Hopewell having anything to do with the Book of Mormon. They lack literacy, coins, any evidence of hebrew or Christian religious practices, horses, horse tack, chariots, steel swords, etc etc etc.

Keep trying though. Your Book of Mormon setting ideas seem about as reliable as bgood's constant impending cataclysm.


here is Hebrew culture artifacts language etc
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... welry.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hways.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mples.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... coins.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... guage.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hways.html

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... words.html


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And again....

Anything from the last century and a reputable source?

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bomgeography wrote:
I will be using the Hopewell mound fortifications found in New York State and Pennsylvania for archeological evidence for the fortifications described in Alma Chapter 50 and refortified in Alma Chapter 52. E.G Sqiuer and Charles Whitney described these fortifications before many of the sites were destroyed by farmers and settlers in the 18th and 19the century. First is a visual description of as described in the Book of Mormon and a comparison between Charles Whitney and E.G Squiers descriptions.

It seems like you are looking at vague generalities based on the text. Can you identify any recovered writings that list any proper names from this area and from the appropriate time period that might match anything in the Book of Mormon? Your map shows an enormous area of the modern United States but only considers the Great Lakes as having any effect on what would have been very large empires for that period of time.


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Bomgeography, what are your thoughts on the Vernal Holly Maps?

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How did this Celestial forum post end up in the Telestrial forum? Was Shades' cat sleeping on the keyboard?

No coffee, tea or tobacco usage. No hard drinks. No swearing or abuse. No breaking the law of chastity with one hand below the keyboard. Shades must have had some reason. Can you spot it? Think of it as a scripture chase of sorts.

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