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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:04 pm 
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(Moderator Note) I split this thread because the blatant personal attacks were flying, and massively derailed the thread. Cam, it started with you, so I will caution you to please think about how things can escalate when you pop off a link like the one you listed. Ms. Jack, please do not make any reference to the incident I edited out of your description. It refers to an incident in Cam's real life, and per board rules, should not be discussed in the open forum. I warned Yahoo Bot of the same thing. Any further reference to this topic on the open forum will result in a brief suspension. Please PM me if you have questions or concerns regarding this ruling.


With all due respect, Liz, are you overlooking the fact that Cam's remarks about Jack's marriage and husband, are also references to *her* IRL?

It needs to stop.

I do not agree with Cam's attacks. I have also been a victim of Cam's attacks, if you recall. However, I was in "Moderator mode", enforcing the board rules that are currently in place.

Ms. Jack was mentioning an incident in Cam's IRL past which he explicitly denies, and has not given permission for anyone to discuss on the open board. That has been established plainly as against the current board rules.

It is covered here in rule #7:

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Do not reveal personal or "in real life" information about any poster on this site that he or she has not explicitly revealed here. This includes avoiding mention of his/her actual first or last name, even if he or she has made it available on some other website.*


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Ms. Jack has openly admitted that she is married, has talked about her family publicly, both here, and on her own blog, which she has referenced openly here on many occasions. I am not saying that Cam should attack her husband, but I cannot discipline him for doing so under our current set of rules. As long as his attacks occur in the Telestial Forum, my hands are tied from a Moderator perspective. Being a former Moderator yourself, I thought this is something that you would recognize.

The best thing that can be done in this instance is the kind of peer pressure that Stak has initiated here.

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Ms. Jack has openly admitted that she is married, has talked about her family publicly, both here, and on her own blog, which she has referenced openly here on many occasions. I am not saying that Cam should attack her husband, but I cannot discipline him for doing so under our current set of rules. As long as his attacks occur in the Telestial Forum, my hands are tied from a Moderator perspective. Being a former Moderator yourself, I thought this is something that you would recognize.


While Jack has talked openly about her family and the fact that she is married to an LDS man, she has not identified him [comment deleted by original author deleted by Dr. Shades], nor has she expressed that she is bitter or hateful to him.

Cam brings these denigrating remarks onto the board as if they were IRL fact and who is to say otherwise?

I think there is room in the rules for this to fall under the heading of IRL.

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:19 pm 
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Ms. Jack has openly admitted that she is married, has talked about her family publicly, both here, and on her own blog, which she has referenced openly here on many occasions. I am not saying that Cam should attack her husband, but I cannot discipline him for doing so under our current set of rules. As long as his attacks occur in the Telestial Forum, my hands are tied from a Moderator perspective. Being a former Moderator yourself, I thought this is something that you would recognize.


While Jack has talked openly about her family and the fact that she is married to an LDS man, she has not identified him [comment deleted by original author deleted by Dr. Shades], nor has she expressed that she is bitter or hateful to him.

Cam brings these denigrating remarks onto the board as if they were IRL fact and who is to say otherwise?

I think there is room in the rules for this to fall under the heading of IRL.

Jersey, if this was my board, you know I wouldn't tolerate it. But it isn't. If Shades wants to adjust the rules, I will be more than happy to enforce them. As it stands, I have done what I can do. I have moved all ugly posts to Telestial, and warned both parties to knock it off.

Come on, folks. We are all adults. I am getting sick and tired of playing Mom with grown-ups who aren't related to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:55 am 
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DoctorCamNC4me:

Is it possible that MsJack loves her husband as a person and only considers his religion to be one aspect of the entire human?

If you are or have ever been married, isn't/wasn't there at least one aspect of your wife that you could've done without, but nevertheless put up with for the greater good?

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:40 am 
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DoctorCamNC4me:

Is it possible that MsJack loves her husband as a person and only considers his religion to be one aspect of the entire human?

If you are or have ever been married, isn't/wasn't there at least one aspect of your wife that you could've done without, but nevertheless put up with for the greater good?


I guess. My SO loves the Patriots, so that's something I have to deal with on a weekly basis. But if she had a blog or spent endless hours on the Internet which was dedicated to pooh-poohing some fundamental aspect of my nature, or my family's nature that would be a problem for me.

*shrugs*

To each their own...

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:51 am 
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But if she had a blog or spent endless hours on the Internet which was dedicated to pooh-poohing some fundamental aspect of my nature, or my family's nature that would be a problem for me.

So shouldn't her husband be the one to call her out on that if he wishes, and not any of us?

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 Post subject: Re: Telestial Comments from Antley: Book of Mormon and Racis
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:03 am 
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Dr. Shades,

I gotcha. Take care.

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