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 Post subject: Utah boy steals family car so he doesn't have to go to church
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:32 am 
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I thought about it once or twice while I was growing up :)

I feel for this kid, I really do. He should be showing up on the boards in a few years, LOL!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:38 am 
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Of course, he might just as likely show up in prison.

Anyway, boys of certain ages also play hooky from school, etc. So what?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:51 am 
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For a 7-year-old, his driving wasn't too bad, Anderson said.

Obviously not a Utah native...







... or a transplant from Cali.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:08 pm 
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Of course, he might just as likely show up in prison.

Anyway, boys of certain ages also play hooky from school, etc. So what?


Why so defensive Dannyboy?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:12 pm 
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Of course, he might just as likely show up in prison.

Anyway, boys of certain ages also play hooky from school, etc. So what?


Why so defensive Dannyboy?



Power of discernment? The lad is close to the age of accountability … yea prison is most likely


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:58 am 
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Of course, he might just as likely show up in prison.

DCP, this is plain malicious. If my childhood misdeeds were set as measure I should be a gangster, serial killer,
rapist, con artist...You name it.
This kid has a very good chance to be the President of United States! Seeing his courage, I'd vote for him;
Even if he were a Republican candidate.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:10 am 
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Whoooosh! Point completely missed!

Yes, he's very likely to show up here in a few years. His youthful theft of a car, so completely meaningless as an indicator of potential future criminal behavior, is rock solid evidence that he'll eventually be Mercury II.

I should never have compared the virtual certainty of the latter to the microscopic likelihood of the former, suggesting that they were roughly on statistical par with each other.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:21 am 
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For a 7-year-old, his driving wasn't too bad, Anderson said.

Obviously not a Utah native...







... or a transplant from Cali.


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I like this kid.

Although I think I'd restrict the use of his big brother's X-Box for a few weeks.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:55 am 
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Whoooosh! Point completely missed!

Yes, he's very likely to show up here in a few years. His youthful theft of a car, so completely meaningless as an indicator of potential future criminal behavior, is rock solid evidence that he'll eventually be Mercury II.

I should never have compared the virtual certainty of the latter to the microscopic likelihood of the former, suggesting that they were roughly on statistical par with each other.


Actually, they are not on statistical par. Not even close. He is much more likely to end up in prison as almost three million Americans are incarcerated. That from a population of 300 hundred million.

There are only 743 registered members on MormonDiscussions.com, not three million. I get your point, however.


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Actually, they are not on statistical par. Not even close. He is much more likely to end up in prison as almost three million Americans are incarcerated. That from a population of 300 hundred million.

There are only 743 registered members on MormonDiscussions.com, not three million. I get your point, however.

You just strengthened it. I thought the disparity between America's prison population and the registered members on this board pretty obvious, but didn't want to hammer the point.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:25 am 
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Anyway, boys of certain ages also play hooky from school, etc. So what?

It's just a commentary on how much church sucks. No child should be subjected to it. What a waste of a perfectly good day off from school. What... you missed that?

Out of the mouths (or, in this case, actions) of babes...

I feel for the kid. That could have been me, although at that age, I don't think driving the car would ever have entered my mind. Faking illness was more my style.

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Anyway, boys of certain ages also play hooky from school, etc. So what?

It's just a commentary on how much church sucks. No child should be subjected to it. What a waste of a perfectly good day off from school. What... you missed that?

No, I didn't. That's why I pointed out that boys of certain ages also play hooky from school.

Which proves, I guess, that education sucks?

And they sometimes ditch chores.

Which demonstrates, I suppose, that children shouldn't be subjected to work around the house ?

And they often won't wear their retainers.

Which is just a commentary, it seems, on how much orthodontic dental care sucks?

And they sometimes won't take their medicines.

Which, I'm guessing, proves that medicine sucks?

And some don't like to shower or bathe or clean their rooms.

Which just illustrates, I suppose, how much cleanliness sucks?

We don't typically allow boys of a certain age to do only what they want to do, and to opt out of anything they don't want to do, assuming that their judgment is sound.

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It's just a commentary on how much church sucks. No child should be subjected to it. What a waste of a perfectly good day off from school. What... you missed that?

No, I didn't. That's why I pointed out that boys of certain ages also play hooky from school.

Which proves, I guess, that education sucks?

And they sometimes ditch chores.

Which demonstrates, I suppose, that children shouldn't be subjected to work around the house ?

And they often won't wear their retainers.

Which is just a commentary, it seems, on how much orthodontic dental care sucks?

And they sometimes won't take their medicines.

Which, I'm guessing, proves that medicine sucks?

And some don't like to shower or bathe or clean their rooms.

Which just illustrates, I suppose, how much cleanliness sucks?

We don't typically allow boys of a certain age to do only what they want to do, and to opt out of anything they don't want to do, assuming that their judgment is sound.

:rolleyes:

Hmmm... at what point did I say that his actions prove anything?

But just for fun, let's assume I did say it (or at least, that it was what I meant).

Your analogies are spurious:
Daniel Peterson wrote:
That's why I pointed out that boys of certain ages also play hooky from school.

Which proves, I guess, that education sucks?

No, it proves that some kids think going to school sucks.

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And they sometimes ditch chores.

Which demonstrates, I suppose, that children shouldn't be subjected to work around the house?

No, it demonstrates that some kids think chores suck.

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And they often won't wear their retainers.

Which is just a commentary, it seems, on how much orthodontic dental care sucks?

No, it's commentary on how some kids think they're uncomfortable for whatever reason.

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And they sometimes won't take their medicines.

Which, I'm guessing, proves that medicine sucks?

No, it proves that some kids think taking medicine sucks.

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And some don't like to shower or bathe or clean their rooms.

Which just illustrates, I suppose, how much cleanliness sucks?

No, it illustrates that some kids would rather do other things than shower or bathe or clean their rooms.

But here's the real problem with your analogies:
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We don't typically allow boys of a certain age to do only what they want to do, and to opt out of anything they don't want to do, assuming that their judgment is sound.

Going to church is not in any way equivalent to the things you listed above, because it really is a useless activity, and is actually potentially dangerous. In this particular instance, the kid's judgment was sound.

I didn't say that his actions prove that church sucks; church does that all on its own.

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Whatever.

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Whatever.

Wow. That was one of your more brilliant replies. Sincerely.

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Wow. That was one of your more brilliant replies. Sincerely.

I wrote a longer one, and then deleted it. Waste of time.

You are who you are.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:57 pm 
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I just think the kid caught wind that his Stake High Councilman was going to be speaking. :lol:

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I wrote a longer one, and then deleted it. Waste of time.

I agree. It is a waste of time to write something if you're just going to delete it.

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Who can argue with that infallable logic?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:18 pm 
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I believe this kid is going to be succesful in whatever he does. He demonstrates that not only does he know what he wants at an early age, he goes about it with a demonstration of class, ability and knowledge beyond his years.

Wish I had the guts and ability to do that at his age!

But what's even more amazing is that our President has yet to comment on whether the boy, his parents, or the police acted stupidly!

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here is the video.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 3&src=news

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