William Schryver - The Vulgar Scatologist of LDS Apologetics

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beastie wrote:LOL. Any doubts I once had about Ludd being a Schryver sock puppet are now erased. It's Schryver, no doubt.


Sheesh, I have only been reading this board for a few months and even I know why he singled out this example.

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Cicero wrote:Sheesh, I have only been reading this board for a few months and even I know why he singled out this example.


So do I. It's the same reason he can't say why he thinks this example is more offensive than the others.
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Ludd wrote:


How exactly is it you reached this conclusion?


Simple, my dear Will. The quote you chose to declare substantially more offensive than any other actually isn't more offensive than all the others. Certainly it is just as offensive. But substantially more? Bull-hockey. So there is some other reason you singled out that quote, and only posters very familiar with this history know what that reason is. You know what it is. Your coy little game isn't fooling those of us who've been around for a while. You're not that good of an actor.
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Cicero wrote:
beastie wrote:LOL. Any doubts I once had about Ludd being a Schryver sock puppet are now erased. It's Schryver, no doubt.


Sheesh, I have only been reading this board for a few months and even I know why he singled out this example.

Ok, I feel like there is an inside joke going on here.

Do me a favor and let me in on it.

As for me: the reason I commented on this example is because it is the last one given on the thread and the first one I encountered when I started reading backwards through the posts after the thread was bumped to the top of the list. Why do you think I commented on it?

Is there or is there not a link to where Schryver said this? Or is it made up like many of the other allegations made about him, Peterson, and Hamblin?

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Ludd wrote:

Ok, I feel like there is an inside joke going on here.

Do me a favor and let me in on it.

As for me: the reason I commented on this example is because it is the last one given on the thread and the first one I encountered when I started reading backwards through the posts after the thread was bumped to the top of the list. Why do you think I commented on it?

Is there or is there not a link to where Schryver said this? Or is it made up like many of the other allegations made about him, Peterson, and Hamblin?


LOL. First you explain why THAT was so much more offensive than all the others. After all, Will was making lewd and rude statements to other women on this site.
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Ludd wrote:Ok, I feel like there is an inside joke going on here.

Do me a favor and let me in on it.

As for me: the reason I commented on this example is because it is the last one given on the thread and the first one I encountered when I started reading backwards through the posts after the thread was bumped to the top of the list. Why do you think I commented on it?

Is there or is there not a link to where Schryver said this? Or is it made up like many of the other allegations made about him, Peterson, and Hamblin?


You not only said it was offensive but said it was substantially more so than the other quotes? Why?
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beastie wrote:
Ludd wrote:


How exactly is it you reached this conclusion?


Simple, my dear Will. The quote you chose to declare substantially more offensive than any other actually isn't more offensive than all the others. Certainly it is just as offensive. But substantially more? Bull-hockey. So there is some other reason you singled out that quote, and only posters very familiar with this history know what that reason is. You know what it is. Your coy little game isn't fooling those of us who've been around for a while. You're not that good of an actor.

:lol:

I'm still at a total loss here, but I'll play along for a while longer:

Is this or is it not the last example of Schryver's bad behavior given on this thread? Why exactly is it so strange then that I would comment on it, seeing as how it was the first example I came upon?

Is it made up like so many of the things said about Peterson, Schryver, and Hamblin?

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Okay, so you've given your reason for why you singled that one out, Will. No go and look at the others. Tell us why the one you singled out is more/less "offensive" than the others. Then we'll tell you the punchline to the "inside joke."

And then you can at last get around to clarifying this Nibley business.
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beastie wrote:
Ludd wrote:

Ok, I feel like there is an inside joke going on here.

Do me a favor and let me in on it.

As for me: the reason I commented on this example is because it is the last one given on the thread and the first one I encountered when I started reading backwards through the posts after the thread was bumped to the top of the list. Why do you think I commented on it?

Is there or is there not a link to where Schryver said this? Or is it made up like many of the other allegations made about him, Peterson, and Hamblin?


LOL. First you explain why THAT was so much more offensive than all the others. After all, Will was making lewd and rude statements to other women on this site.

That's easy: I have yet to see any "lewd" statements Schryver made towards women here. None. Sorry, but commenting about a woman's breast reduction surgery doesn't qualify as "lewd" in my book. Apparently you people have a different standard here for what constitutes "lewdness". And it appears to be a standard that you only apply to people like Schryver, Peterson, and Hamblin.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:Okay, so you've given your reason for why you singled that one out, Will. No go and look at the others. Tell us why the one you singled out is more/less "offensive" than the others. Then we'll tell you the punchline to the "inside joke."

And then you can at last get around to clarifying this Nibley business.


I get why he said he noticed that one but not why he thinks it's "substantially more offensive" than the others.
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Ludd wrote:Is there or is there not a link to where Schryver said this?


Really? You are SO obvious. Dude, you have a really sick way of entertaining yourself. This act is getting very tiresome.

And sorry to break this to you Will, but any reasonable outside observer would conclude that the Kimberly Ann comments were much worse.

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Ludd wrote:That's easy: I have yet to see any "lewd" statements Schryver made towards women here. None. Sorry, but commenting about a woman's breast reduction surgery doesn't qualify as "lewd" in my book. Apparently you people have a different standard here for what constitutes "lewdness". And it appears to be a standard that you only apply to people like Schryver, Peterson, and Hamblin.


You're a sick person. Making jokes about a woman's breasts and expressing your arousal at seeing her in a revealing dress are lewd in my book and I'm likely not alone.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Okay, so you've given your reason for why you singled that one out, Will. No go and look at the others. Tell us why the one you singled out is more/less "offensive" than the others. Then we'll tell you the punchline to the "inside joke."

And then you can at last get around to clarifying this Nibley business.

See my reply to beastie just above this post. I don't consider comments about breast reduction surgery particularly "lewd". I can't recall having seen a single thing Schryver said that I would categorize as lewd. Except perhaps for the masturbating to his wife thing. That at least comes close to being a bit lewd, although I've certainly seen much worse here from other regular posters. The sexually explicit things liz3467 posted are a really good example.

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Ludd wrote:See my reply to beastie just above this post. I don't consider comments about breast reduction surgery particularly "lewd". I can't recall having seen a single thing Schryver said that I would categorize as lewd. Except perhaps for the masturbating to his wife thing. That at least comes close to being a bit lewd, although I've certainly seen much worse here from other regular posters. The sexually explicit things liz3467 posted are a really good example.


So you'd be fine with a stranger going on and on about your wife's breasts and how aroused he was when he saw her in a revealing dress?
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Cicero wrote:...any reasonable outside observer would conclude that the Kimberly Ann comments were much worse.

This is clearly not true, since I know that at least three "reasonable outside observers" (besides Peterson and those who have posted on this board) who have read what Schryver wrote in MsJack's misogyny thread and came away from it wondering what all the fuss was about.

The simple fact is that you folks are delusional when it comes to this issue. "REasonable outside observers" see this quite plainly, even if you don't.

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Ludd wrote:See my reply to beastie just above this post. I don't consider comments about breast reduction surgery particularly "lewd". I can't recall having seen a single thing Schryver said that I would categorize as lewd. Except perhaps for the masturbating to his wife thing. That at least comes close to being a bit lewd, although I've certainly seen much worse here from other regular posters. The sexually explicit things liz3467 posted are a really good example.


Liz has never to my knowledge said anything lewd to anyone when it was unwanted. Sexual jokes between friends happen all the time. Unwanted sexual jokes that continue after the recipient has asked you to stop are in a different league. You are one sick ____ if you think Liz's jokes are equivalent to Schryver's creepy comments that went on long after Kimberly asked him to stop. She even had to post a picture of the dress in question because Schryver made it sound like she was dressed like a hooker.
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Ludd wrote:This is clearly not true, since I know that at least three "reasonable outside observers" (besides Peterson and those who have posted on this board) who have read what Schryver wrote in MsJack's misogyny thread and came away from it wondering what all the fuss was about.

The simple fact is that you folks are delusional when it comes to this issue. "REasonable outside observers" see this quite plainly, even if you don't.


BYU must be delusional too.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Ludd wrote:That's easy: I have yet to see any "lewd" statements Schryver made towards women here. None. Sorry, but commenting about a woman's breast reduction surgery doesn't qualify as "lewd" in my book. Apparently you people have a different standard here for what constitutes "lewdness". And it appears to be a standard that you only apply to people like Schryver, Peterson, and Hamblin.


You're a sick person. Making jokes about a woman's breasts and expressing your arousal at seeing her in a revealing dress are lewd in my book and I'm likely not alone.

Yes, it's obvious you're not alone. That doesn't make your opinion correct, however. This place is an example of group-think gone crazy.

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Ludd wrote:This is clearly not true, since I know that at least three "reasonable outside observers" (besides Peterson and those who have posted on this board) who have read what Schryver wrote in MsJack's misogyny thread and came away from it wondering what all the fuss was about.

The simple fact is that you folks are delusional when it comes to this issue. "REasonable outside observers" see this quite plainly, even if you don't.


BYU must be delusional too.

I've seen no evidence that "BYU" is aware of or agrees with you on this issue. At any rate, it's time for me to go home and forget about this place for the time being.

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Ludd wrote:Yes, it's obvious you're not alone. That doesn't make your opinion correct, however. This place is an example of group-think gone crazy.


If it's OK in your circles to make unwanted jokes about women's breasts and then continue after you are asked to stop then you run in some very strange circles.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Ludd wrote:See my reply to beastie just above this post. I don't consider comments about breast reduction surgery particularly "lewd". I can't recall having seen a single thing Schryver said that I would categorize as lewd. Except perhaps for the masturbating to his wife thing. That at least comes close to being a bit lewd, although I've certainly seen much worse here from other regular posters. The sexually explicit things liz3467 posted are a really good example.


So you'd be fine with a stranger going on and on about your wife's breasts and how aroused he was when he saw her in a revealing dress?

If my wife wore a dress that barely covered her breasts, I think I would expect such comments. Maybe that's why the woman in question is now divorced (per what was said on another thread about her). Her husband probably didn't like the fact that she was wearing porn-star attire in public.

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