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 Post subject: Re: Courtney Simpson: Mormon Porn Star.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:09 pm 
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The church is easier on women because they don't have the priesthood.



Really? Have you ever heard the names Maxine Hanks, Lynne Whitesides, and Lavina Fielding Anderson? They are three of the September Six. In spite of many attempts, Anderson has been unable to regain her membership.


They should have shown up at their court of love in a mini skirt with lots of cleavage showing. I can just imagine what some of the questions would be.

A long time ago I was talking to two co workers and one there was a 20 something gal that was showing a lot. I looked at a friend of mine and tried to say "would you trust your life to a microchip" but instead said "would you chest your life (then I stopped). My friend looked at me real seriously then got a big grin on his face and said "do you want to try that again". The gal excused herself and left.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:03 pm 
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A long time ago I was talking to two co workers and one there was a 20 something gal that was showing a lot. I looked at a friend of mine and tried to say "would you trust your life to a microchip" but instead said "would you chest your life (then I stopped). My friend looked at me real seriously then got a big grin on his face and said "do you want to try that again". The gal excused herself and left.



I have an older female employee with a unique sense of "style", which usually involves gaudy outfits showing more cleavage than anyone wants to see (think Paula Abdul on a bad day). I met her in the lobby before going in to meet with a client, and her outfit was particularly bad; she had unbuttoned her shirt halfway down. I discretely mentioned that "it looked like she had missed a button or two". She looked down, said "Oh no, it's supposed to be like that, and then walked into the conference room. I was dying for the entire meeting. When my business partners and I have to attend a meeting with her, we jokingly fight over who doesn't have to sit directly across from her. Ugh.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:44 pm 
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Very true, Jason. However, I cite the case of Simon Southerton, who wrote Losing Lost Tribe, and was inactive for some six years when the Church suddenly decided he deserved excommunication for "having an inappropriate relationship with a woman". That should make my point even more obvious. Only the most naïve would think he was exed for "conduct unbecoming"


Clearly the Church is more apt to go after someone who is publicly ridiculing the Church vs. the more private sinner. And yea, it is clear the Southerton was dragged in over his book. Interestingly the professor from somewhere in Idaho, Murphy I think was his name, that had DNA issues that he wrote about ended up not going through church discipline. This may have been due to the bad PR that was being stirred up by Murphy's supporters. Initially his stake president was going to take action but the publicity seemed to cause him to back down and drop it.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:15 pm 
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Initially his stake president was going to take action but the publicity seemed to cause him to back down and drop it.


Let me also make it clear that I'm not calling for Courtney Simpson's excommunication. Far from it. I hope she goes on to have a successful life in whatever she does, and I have not engaged in any cheap mockery of her here.

My initial point was about the double standards, how someone working in the porn industry (nothing wrong with that either, per se) can openly declare himself/herself Mormon with no repercussions, yet the Church creates "internal espionage systems" to ferret out critics (my threads are connected). You mean no one knew who Courtney Simpson was? Rollo put that to rest.

Considering that many who leave the Church are also accused of "immorality", and the Church tried all it could to dig up dirt on Quinn, it's rather glaring that they have nothing to say about "Mormon Porn Stars".

I guess criticism, not fornication, is "the sin next to murder".


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Back in 1997, A missionary serving in the Los Angeles, California mission was recruited into the porn business and made a few films.

An independent documentary was made about the case; you can view the trailer here.

No I can't, it said it's not available to be viewed in my country. I trust you that there are Mormon male porno stars.

In that case, here's a YouTube link showing the same trailer for that documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAtt1bhzN4

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That was superb. Mormonoids in the 21st century.


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In that case, here's a YouTube link showing the same trailer for that documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAtt1bhzN4


Thanks Shades, I just finished watching the entire movie on youtube...some funny lines in there.


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I think to qualify to be a Mormon male porn star, you have to consider the male's endowment.


It's also important to see if he's had his calling and erection made sure.


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In that case, here's a YouTube link showing the same trailer for that documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAtt1bhzN4


Thanks Shades, I just finished watching the entire movie on youtube...some funny lines in there.


Aww man, I just spent half the afternoon watching. That was funny. When it finished, I realised my monkeyson had taken advantage of mum being engrossed and unrolled a whole roll of toilet paper, then chucked it down the toilet, then fished it out to create a papier mache scene in the hallway. The Thomas the Tank Engine railway crash diorama had been topped off with a whole tube of toothpaste squirted all over the tracks. At least it was a snow scene this time, not a mud-slide.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:18 pm 
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I am actually surprised that Simpson has not had any Church action taken against her. If she is publicly identified as a Mormon practicing porn, that's pretty damning.


They are clearly planning on love-bombing her back, look...

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After someone left a stack of pornographic photos of her on the doorstep of the house where she lived with her parents, Simpson left Arizona State University and moved to California to perform in pornographic films full time. Her parents did not approve of her career, or her moving, but came to terms.


Her hometeachers have been leaving presents! Or maybe it was the RS pres.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:12 am 
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And yet they go after a guy who sells beefcake calendars ... If she embarrassed the Church they would hunt her down.

I think that I have already stated on this thread that the beefcake calender was done by a RM who decided to use his former status as a missionary for lewd purposes. Plus, we have no idea what he said about the LDS church and calender. But yes, he put the priesthood of god into mock mode with that calender. Thus, bye bye!!


I see ..
its about the church not being mocked and not the soul of the sinner.. I think we have always know that though..

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:20 am 
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I see ..
its about the church not being mocked and not the soul of the sinner.. I think we have always know that though..



Actually it is both. There are a number of reasons given in the manual for taking a Church action against a member. They are listed as:

1: To save the souls of transgressors
2: To protect the innocent
3: To safeguard the purity, integrity, and the good name of the Church.


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I see ..
its about the church not being mocked and not the soul of the sinner.. I think we have always know that though..



Actually it is both. There are a number of reasons given in the manual for taking a Church action against a member. They are listed as:

1: To save the souls of transgressors
2: To protect the innocent
3: To safeguard the purity, integrity, and the good name of the Church.


Interesting how #3 takes precedence so often, at least in high profile cases.

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She was obviously called to assist in the Mormon church's "Raising the Bar" program for potential missionaries. It's likely she even extended the bar raising to men who had completed their missions. It's rare that a sister so vigorously performs her calling!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:29 pm 
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Our pornstar friend was not broadcasting her Mormon background to sell more movies. She was probably not active when making those movies. And she is a woman. The church is easier on women because they don't have the priesthood. I will also bet a penny that she has not been to the temple.


( Bold Emphasis Mine. )

I agree with you with this statement of your that I bolded here.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:38 pm 
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other porn stars that were reared in the LDS church:

Annette Haven
Rhonda Jo Petty
Brandy Alexander (who I think I use dance with at stake dances)


In Church? I would have thought this behavior would be reserved for the screen.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:10 am 
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She was obviously called to assist in the Mormon church's "Raising the Bar" program for potential missionaries. It's likely she even extended the bar raising to men who had completed their missions. It's rare that a sister so vigorously performs her calling!
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As I've read this, I translated it word-by-word at first sight.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:55 am 
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"I think that the local LDS church is more lenient wih women because they understand the pressure single women are under when it comes to sex---being constantly hit upon by horny guys from outside the LDS church."

eh - no comment.

You need to ask some of the hotties on this board about their experience with non-lds guys. Tempatation, temptation, temptation....from hunkie guys. :evil:

Well, thanks for asking. I find that if I just set boundaries early in the date, they will still be persistent but not overbearing.

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Our pornstar friend was not broadcasting her Mormon background to sell more movies. She was probably not active when making those movies. And she is a woman. The church is easier on women because they don't have the priesthood. I will also bet a penny that she has not been to the temple.


( Bold Emphasis Mine. )

I agree with you with this statement of your that I bolded here.

I remember a good friend of mine years ago went to the bishop to confess her sexual sins. The bishop replied that since she was a beautiful woman she would get hit on by many good looking men. The bishop understood the temptation and problem. No action was taken against her. Also, she was not that commited and somewhat inactive at the time. I think that this shows the local church can be very understanding of the human condition.

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Well, thanks for asking. I find that if I just set boundaries early in the date, they will still be persistent but not overbearing.

Yea, I have the same problem... :rolleyes:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:12 pm 
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why me wrote:
I remember a good friend of mine years ago went to the bishop to confess her sexual sins. The bishop replied that since she was a beautiful woman she would get hit on by many good looking men. The bishop understood the temptation and problem. No action was taken against her. Also, she was not that commited and somewhat inactive at the time. I think that this shows the local church can be very understanding of the human condition.

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That's a great story. I don't see any double standard.

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