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Another Racially Insensitive Martin Luther King Day Weekend at "Sic et Non"

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Readers of Dr. Peterson's blog, "Sic et Non," may have noticed, as of late, an ongoing dispute between Louis Midgley and the commenter known here as "Dr. LOD," and on "Sic et Non" as "Dr. VelhoBurrinho." The substance of the argument comes down to a couple of things: one, that Dr. LOD accused Midgley of "racism" on account of Midgley's insensitive "cultural appropriation" (does Midgley even know what that means?) of LDS Maori culture. Here's a very small sample of Midgley's rancorous take on the matter:

Midgley wrote:Dr. VelhoBurrinho seems to have bought hook, line and sinker the kind of thing that Simon Southerton, a certain Australian former Latter-day Saint, who is is a plant geneticist, argues. And hence, it seems, that the "Little Old Donkey" is no longer believes that there were Lehites, and hence that the Book of Mormon is fiction fashioned by Joseph Smith. This seems to explain why he posts as Dr. LOD (Little Old Donkey) on that violently hate filled fake Dr. Shades board. To see clearly what this entails, all one has to do is to notice the up and down voting from the fake Doctors and Professors that slither in from that sewer.

This explains why Dr. VelhoBurrinho is hostile to both Professor Peterson and me. And it may help explain his absurd claim that I have a a latent racial bigotry toward Maori Latter-day Saints.

The previous tiny little difference of opinion that Professor Peterson and I had with "Little Old Donkey" over whether the traces of the DNA of the three migrations mentioned in the Book of Mormon now be present in all native Americans rests on ignorance of the reasons this simply has to be so.

But sic et non is not the place to try to sort these issues with the Little Old Donkey. Those who have tried to follow his absurd claim that what is commonly know as the Maori Latter-day Saint historical narrative is not something that I fashioned as a missionary in New Zealand in 1950, which I am not trying to project on the Maori Saints.

And for the Little Old Donkey to claim, as he does, that Dan and I are trying to deal with the rubbish being peddled by Rodney Meldrum about where the events described in the Book of Mormon took place is rubbish.


In another post, quoted here, Midgley seems to attach Dr. LOD on the basis of his ethnic ancestry:

Midgley wrote:Sam, the "highly educated native American--the infamous Dr. VelhoBurrinho (or Little Old Donkey) if he notices your remark, will accuse you of merely co-oping the story of those people who have had their culture trashed by you as you project your opinions on them in an effort to have trophy Polynesian members to shore up your own stupid faith.


And Dr. LOD punches back:

Dr. LOD wrote:Professor Midgley, by the tone of your post it is very clear you are picking out my race and heritage. That sir is racism.

I have only criticized or challenged your opinions or beliefs that you have shared here. I never did a personal attack against your appearance, race, national origin, sexuality, or age.

About your religion which we do share, the closest I would have come to anything was to challenge your loose use of "Saints" when you try to justify what really is bad behavior on your part in "defending" the church.


Suffice it to say that issues of race are rather tense at the moment over on "Sic et Non"--at least, to anyone who is paying attention. Unless, perhaps, you are the blog's chief author, owner, and proprietor, that is. Just get a load of his latest post, entitled, "A couple of songs from my first residence in the Middle East." Now, DCP has taken heat in the past for his, uh, "checkered" past as an insensitive youth traveling in the Middle East. While he attempts to frame this entry through the lens of "folk music," it doesn't really do much to help out the basic odiousness of the post. This is the set up:

Peterson wrote:My first stay in the Middle East was six months with a BYU study abroad group in Israel. For roughly the first half of that 1978 program — just eleven years after Israel had seized control of East Jerusalem (and the West Bank and the Sinai and the Golan Heights) during the Six-Day War of 1967 — we were housed (and had our classes) in the Vienna Hotel, a Palestinian establishment in an Arab neighborhood called Shaykh Jarrah. (The building has long since been demolished.)


Huh. Well, at least the conflict was "eleven years" in the past, which sort of makes you wonder why he's using those political details to set the stage. But he soon reveals the basic "western" attitudes that he and his young comrades had towards the Middle East and its people:

Sic et Non wrote:The Vienna Hotel wasn’t exactly the Ritz Carlton. Here’s a song that my roommate and I (mostly my roommate, if I recall correctly) made up in honor of that august place of lodging:

V is for the vermin in the bathtub.

I is for the instant milk we drink.

E is for the broken elevator.

N is for that nasty sewer stink.

N is for the nutrients we’re lacking.

A’s for Abu Fu’ad slinging slop.

Put them all together, it’s “Vienna.”

For refugee camps, it’s the top!


Since we aren't given any more details (such as whether any of this is even remotely true), you have little choice but to see it as a sort of "first world" arrogance: here are these spoiled white American kids, flipping the bird at the "poor, impoverished 'Other'". I have to admit, the line that bothers me the most is this: "A's for Abu Fu'ad singling slop." Is this ignorance? I.e., DCP and his friend just didn't understand the food? Did it look "weird" to them? Like: "Ewww! Those gross Japanese people eat raw fish!!!" That kind of thing--racism born out of ignorance? Or, was the food just not "up to snuff" according to the sophisticated palates of these budding young "Men from Davos"?

But the story gets even better (or worse, I guess?):

DCP wrote:Somewhere near the midway point of our program, we spent a couple of weeks up north in the Galilee, first at the collective farm Kibbutz Deganya Alef or Deganya A (דְּגַנְיָה א’). The permanent settlement was established in 1910, making it the earliest socialist Zionist farming commune in Israel. It’s sometimes called “the mother of all kibbutzim.”

We were essentially agricultural workers, spending much of our time pruning banana trees. (In order to escape the banana-tree pruning detail, I volunteered to spend most of one night loading geese onto trucks. They bite. I went back to pruning banana trees. They don’t bite.)

But that’s a story for another time. Anyway, here’s a little piece that my roomate and I made up, to be sung to the tune of “Go Down, Moses.” I would sing it, with choral response, while we were working in the fields. Galbraith, of course, refers to the director of the BYU Jerusalem Program at the time, David Galbraith (later a friend and BYU faculty colleague). Izzy (presumably short for Israel) was one of the leaders of Kibbutz Deganya Alef, and the person most responsible for our group’s being there:


When BYU was in Israel land

(Let my people go!)

They worked so hard they could not stand.

(Let my people go!)

Go down, Galbraith! Go down Deganya way!

Tell old Izzy, “Let my people go!”


Wait, wait, wait.... DCP says he would "sing it, with choral response" while he was working in the fields?? So, basically, he was amusing himself by imagining that he was a black American slave, doing agricultural labor out "in the fields"? Because it really is impossible to separate that song from the history of American slavery. See here, for example, for your friendly Wikipedia listing for the song. (The entry notes that Harriet Tubman "used "Go Down Moses" as one of two code songs fugitive slaves used to communicate when fleeing Maryland.") And, of course, the song was popularized by the great African American singer, Paul Robeson.

Look: there is a part of me that wants to dismiss this sort of thing as mere "infelicities of youth." But if DCP was acting like a spoiled, naïve and racially insensitive twerp as a youth, then why is he bringing it up now? Especially considering the blows being exchanged by Midgley and Dr. LOD? I guess DCP thinks this sort of stuff is still "good for a laugh"?

In any case, it would be nice to get some clarification from him on what this was meant to accomplish. Quite embarrassing, if you ask me.
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... on that violently hate-filled fake Dr. Shades board.

Dr. Midgley has started to insult me in Maori at Sic et Non. Not sure he should be calling anyone or anything hate-filled without risking a cosmic irony reaction.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:then why is he bringing it up now? Especially considering the blows being exchanged by Midgley and Dr. LOD? I guess DCP thinks this sort of stuff is still "good for a laugh"?


Because it's the kind of thing that lends credibility on the blog? It will be especially popular with the right-wing culture of the day. And as noted, I'm keeping an eye on Interpreter, as it appears to have taken a strange turn into Alt Right territory.

But don't you remember many years later, after he'd made a name for himself for doing something -- what was it exactly? He went alone back to the Middle East adorned in a purple robe, so to speak, and was treated to one of the finest meals of his life. I'm assuming there was no song made about those who suffered for the opulence enjoyed at that time.

The psychology here is fueled by feelings of inferiority, or embarrassment about the great many of silly things that these grown-ups desperately cling to. That makes a person look for "easy targets" (usually those less privileged) to validate ones self against.
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Dr.Midgley wrote:This seems to explain why he posts as Dr. LOD (Little Old Donkey) on that violently hate filled fake Dr. Shades board. To see clearly what this entails, all one has to do is to notice the up and down voting from the fake Doctors and Professors that slither in from that sewer.


I am surprised no one noticed this erroneous remark from Dr. Midgley.

We don't have up and down voting for anyone to notice. Perhaps Dr. Midgley is confusing us with MAD?
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Isn't he talking about any up or down vote that he doesn't approve of on Sic Et Non? If somebody down-votes something he said, there is no other explanation than a "fake doctor" from this board -- seething with hatred for the Church of Jesus Christ (that they know is true) -- took the trouble to go over there and cast that vote.
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I had to chuckle at the way Philip Jenkins proposed that if, by “naïve,” Bill Hamblin meant to say “ competent, rigorous, professional historian.”

In a similar spirit, I suggest that by “hate filled,” Dr. Midgley means to say “honest, open minded, and truth seeking.”

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Perhaps some Bill O'Reilly acolytes made a sizable donation and he is paying homage to their attitudes? Maybe 'merica first, only the puritans' ancestors could have brought forth the fake restoration, attitude is coming back in a big way? Maybe he and Meldrum will be making up soon with a "buss" eh Dr. Midgley?
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Professor Midgley seems to have taken me pointing out a component of his relationship to the Maori and their culture that developed on his mission quite personal. I feel my original critique was actually quite gentle considering to what else he was saying in his Interpreter article in question.

This isn't the first time I have seen this type of reaction. It is an exhibit of a certain type of fragility of ones identity.

I have no doubt that Professor Midgley genuinely does care and love these people and their culture. But there is an inherent selfishness in this relationship, he was also appropriating their bodies, culture and beliefs, as a faith promoting experience for his own beliefs. This is where his latent racism sits.

The church has also showed this pattern from is founding to today. Current teachings in the chapels about Native Americans has not changed one bit in the last fourty years. In those chapels my family and I have seen varying degrees of this from a misplaced love and benevolence to outright racism build upon the concept of white nationalism. It is all wrong.

It is somewhat ironic that the, blood from these people, their DNA is now a "voice from the dust" setting the record straight and changing the narrative.
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Hateful Midgley wrote:This seems to explain why he posts as Dr. LOD (Little Old Donkey) on that violently hate filled fake Dr. Shades board. To see clearly what this entails, all one has to do is to notice the up and down voting from the fake Doctors and Professors that slither in from that sewer.


:evil:

Now I am pissed (no pun intended)!

:mad:

I'm tired of Peterson and his ilk referring to us as the "sewer" which is the place where ____ floats about in diseased water.

Stop calling us the sewer you bastards!

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Shulem wrote:
Hateful Midgley wrote:This seems to explain why he posts as Dr. LOD (Little Old Donkey) on that violently hate filled fake Dr. Shades board. To see clearly what this entails, all one has to do is to notice the up and down voting from the fake Doctors and Professors that slither in from that sewer.

:evil:

Now I am pissed (no pun intended)!

:mad:

I'm tired of Peterson and his ilk referring to us as the "sewer" which is the place where ____ floats about in diseased water.

Stop calling us the sewer you bastards!

Own it with pride, Shulem. Sewers are a mark of civilization the sanitary functions of which are ultimately salutary.

P.S. I chuckled when I saw that Peterson added vowels to the Hebrew, like it’s a biblical text or poetry—well, I guess children’s books also use vowelling.

So erudite!
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Dr LOD wrote:I have no doubt that Professor Midgley genuinely does care and love these people and their culture. But there is some selfishness in this relationship he was also appropriating their bodies, culture and beliefs, as a faith promoting experience for his own beliefs. This is where his latent racism sits.
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Dr Moore wrote:I had to chuckle at the way Philip Jenkins proposed that if, by “naïve,” Bill Hamblin meant to say “ competent, rigorous, professional historian.”

In a similar spirit, I suggest that by “hate filled,” Dr. Midgley means to say “honest, open minded, and truth seeking.”


Nice find Dr M! Jenkins and Midgely- i can't even fathom a debate much less civility from Woody's side in a conversation.

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Sic et Non is disgusting. Daniel C. Peterson has a long and well-documented record of racism. Here are just a few examples:

--DCP has published lynching photos with "amusing" commentary. DCP was forced to retract the photos and issue a public apology.

--DCP has publicly stated that slavery was a blessing because the descendants of slaves now get to live in the United States.

--DCP has publicly criticized Martin Luther King on several occasions.

--DCP has publicly mocked Jewish wedding ceremonies.

--DCP has publicly defended the Priesthood Ban as coming directly from God.

--DCP has publicly praised the book "Added Upon" that explains skin color is based upon how valiant and righteous one was in the pre-existence.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:--DCP has publicly stated that slavery was a blessing because the descendants of slaves now get to live in the United States.

DCP is a racist and nationalist FAT pig. Oink!

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Gadianton wrote: It will be especially popular with the right-wing culture of the day. And as noted, I'm keeping an eye on Interpreter, as it appears to have taken a strange turn into Alt Right territory.

Dean,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I've also noticed the Interpreter's shift to the Alt Right. I guess it was just a matter of time until DCP's racist attitudes and his Alt Right politics found their way to the forefront.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Gadianton wrote: It will be especially popular with the right-wing culture of the day. And as noted, I'm keeping an eye on Interpreter, as it appears to have taken a strange turn into Alt Right territory.

Dean,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I've also noticed the Interpreter's shift to the Alt Right. I guess it was just a matter of time until DCP's racist attitudes and his Alt Right politics found their way to the forefront.

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I hope you were expecting an interesting response from Dr. Peterson. I know I was. And you know what? The man delivers:

Dr. Demento wrote:Dan, yikes!

I wonder if writing this article was uncomfortable for you. It made me feel a little uneasy reading it. Often, serious introspection and confronting previously held misguided beliefs and attitudes can be very difficult.

If I could hop into a time machine and go back to talk to the young Dan, I would try to impart the importance of respecting others different than us and the evils of pride, cultural insensitivity and racism.

I appreciate you having the courage to share the attitudes and beliefs of the younger Dan, warts and all. I know that couldn't have been easy for you.

Thanks again.


Sic et Non wrote:Demento: "I wonder if writing this article was uncomfortable for you."

Nope. It wasn't.

Demento: "It made me feel a little uneasy reading."

Sure it did.

You were drooling with excitement as you saw a possible way to attempt to misrepresent and defame me, again. You LOVED it.

But it won't work.

Demento: "Often, serious introspection and confronting previously held misguided beliefs and attitudes can be very difficult."

LOL. One of the lines of my little ditty that you and your pals chose in order, as you hoped, to illustrate my arrogant racial insensitivity and ethnocentric chauvinism was "A's for Abu Fu‘ad slinging slop."

I doubt that your board cronies are really so totally lacking in a sense of humor that they really failed to recognize the time-honored traditiion of mocking the food in dormitories and mess halls.

But the food at the Vienna Hotel was, by any reasonable standard, genuinely mediocre. Not because we disdained Abu Fu’ad. We liked him. And not, as you and your boardmates pretend, because it was Middle Eastern food that I loathed because it was foreign -- I LIKE Middle Eastern food and often eat in Middle Eastern restaurants, even when not in the Middle East -- but because it was cheap, high-starch, mass-produced, imitation Western cafeteria slop.

Demento: "If I could hop into a time machine and go back to talk to the young Dan, I would try to impart the importance of respecting others different than us and the evils of pride, cultural insensitivity and racism."

Your pretense of superior multiculturalism works, I suppose, over at the Malevolent Stalker Board. They might even swallow your risible pose of "respect for others different than us."

It won't work here. Attempting to portray me -- ME, of all people -- as an anti-Arab racist who despises cultural difference and loathes foreign cultures is a bridge too far, even for you and the dedicated cadre of obsessive loons on your completely bizarre board.

Demento: "I appreciate you having the courage to share the attitudes and beliefs of the younger Dan, warts and all. I know that couldn't have been easy for you."

Your acting skills aren't likely to earn you an Oscar any time soon.


Sheesh! Calm down! I mean, just look at the indignant outrage here: "Attempting to portray me -- ME, of all people -- as an anti-Arab racist who despises cultural difference and loathes foreign cultures is a bridge too far, even for you and the dedicated cadre of obsessive loons on your completely bizarre board."

Right--I mean, think about how much he blogs about his travels abroad! He couldn't possibly be the type of person who "loathes foreign cultures"! Heck: he could not have been that way even when he was a kid!!. Does he just skim the posts over here, or what? Does a phrase like "youthful infelicities" just sail over his head? (Does he not know what "infelicities" are?)

And surely he can see that the title of the thread mentions a scare-quoted "Blackface." Surely Dr. Peterson knows what that means. It *is* the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday weekend. Perhaps a shot at redemption is in order? Some piety and penitence? It's never to late to admit that one was wrong....

But Dr. Peterson's outrage isn't finished yet.

Dr. Demento wrote:What a weird, paranoid and sad response.

Dan: "It won't work here. Attempting to portray me -- of all people -- as an anti-Arab racist who despises cultural difference and loathes foreign cultures."

You don't need my help. Your article did an excellent job portraying just that. Sadly, it appears the younger Dan is not much different from the older Dan.

I can't even begin to imagine the personal demons that must haunt you and the hate you carry. I pray you will be able to find some peace. Have a good night Dan.


DCP wrote:Demento: "What a weird, paranoid and sad response."

What a lunatic angle of attack.

Demento: "You don't need my help. Your article did an excellent job portraying just that. Sadly, it appears the younger Dan is not much different from the older Dan."

My decades of studying, teaching, and writing -- sympathetically and with appreciation -- about Arabs and Muslims, and about Islam, and about Arabo-Persian culture and civilization, and about world religions and foreign cultures generally, testify quite clearly to the respect that I have for them.

Your disingenuousness and mendacity won't erase my lifetime of work.

Demento: "Have a good night Dan."

Oh, you can rely on it. I will.

And you can, too. You have a whole message board devoted to this sort of idiotic nonsense. Enjoy it! Revel in it! Wallow in it! Just don't bring it over here.


"[M]y lifetime of work"? What on earth is he talking about? Why is this the thing he's latching onto? No one has made a peep about his work life. The post in question was dealing with his behavior when he was a youth.

Dr. Demento wrote:Yikes! What a violent and angry response. Take care of yourself Dan. I hope and pray you'll find peace one day. Good night.


DCP wrote:Demento: "What a violent and angry response."

There was no violence and, although it would have entirely justified, no anger.

But I feel no obligation at all to be patient with insulting poseurs.

Demento: "I hope and pray you'll find peace one day."

There's the signature condescending disingenuousness again.

I'm entirely at peace.

Accusations that contain an element of truth bother me. Those, like yours, that are completely baseless and insincere don't bother me a bit.


Oh, man! This may very well be the quote of the year! First, notice the "rage typo": "There was no violence and, although it would have entirely justified, no anger."

LOL! "I'm not mad at all! And if I was, it would have entirely justified!" If it were any more amusing, I would have laughing harder!

But this....This.... *This* is solid gold:

Quote of the Year? wrote:Accusations that contain an element of truth bother me.


As they should, Dr. Peterson; as they should. A number of very true things have been said (such as getting paid more than $20,000 for serving as "Chair of FARMS"), and indeed some people have been "bothered." Perhaps being more honest would help the "bother"-some feelings to go away.
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Philo Sofee wrote:Well, I mean.........Jesus is Republican isn't he?

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I can empathize with the justifiable rage Dr. Peterson must feel at finding a thread with "Blackface" in the title, in which his longtime nemesis attempts to connect various strained data points to an unfortunate theory of lifelong racism. Dan has spent his entire career engaged in Arabic studies, one of very few Mormon scholars to do so. Indeed, let's be gracious and appreciate that the data does not support a conclusion that somehow the young man, however insensitive, never grew up. Perhaps Doctor Scratch may wish to consider the possibility that he crossed a line here and should retread the data to limit the scope of the theory to his "youthful infelicities" observation.

Leaving that aside for Doctor Scratch and Dr. Peterson to resolve, I cannot help but observe that growing abundance of data over at Sic et Non unfortunately points to another problem.

The repartee with Demento over at Sic et Non reminds me of last year, when every questioner or critic found themselves facing an accusation of being part of the "hate board" or a denizen of the "swamp" over at MormonDiscussions.com. Why is that the first line of attack on Demento? Near as I can tell, the only board Demento mentioned in his comment was Sic et Non.

And that is just one example. Of late, exchanges between Dr. Peterson and various commentators over at Sic et Non show that Dr. Peterson has chosen to re-broaden his anger at a few harsh critics back into the same old tired, contemptuous insults directed at the entire population on MormonDiscussions.com. What a shame. Back to name-calling already, Dan?

It is a shame to me because those insults serve no good purpose. And they fog what could otherwise be a richer and more uplifting dialogue, which was the very thing that prompted me to issue the $10k challenge in the first place.

And in fact, just 3 1/2 months ago, in exchange for a parting gift donation to Interpreter, I closed out that failed $10k civility experiment in return for one and only one thing: Dan's good word that he would continue showing respect and civility towards the many participants of MormonDiscussions.com. Not just for a week or a month, but in a long term vision.

That's all I asked. I was very specific about it. And he agreed.

It was a private agreement that I enjoyed making. I held high hopes that this one small improvement might become a durable example, raise the bar.

In an abundance of clarity, I further highlighted, very specifically, to Dr. Peterson the risk I was taking -- that by trusting Dr. Peterson's commitment to adopt our joint exercise for lasting change, he could just change his mind and make me look the fool once the money was sent.

In other words, I showed good faith in return for a promise of good faith.

Dr. Peterson's response: "I would be happy with this, if you're willing. I keep promises."

Do you, Dan?

You have not kept this promise. Not even close.

And before you go ballistic and accuse me, as you may be inclined, of bearing some kind of false witness, please remember that emails last forever. As you well know. :wink:

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You know, Dr. Moore. This is a university most noted for the study of Mopologetics. I'd like to formally request you publish those emails in the interest of public education and, this goes withouit saying, for collaboration with Cassius scholars. Remember, it's the work of brave and serious scholars who've successfully laid bare the mechanisms, motivations, techniques, and intersectionality of BYU departments with regards to Mormon apologia. Please consider this humble request.

Respectfully,

Dr. Cameron, North Carolina for Me
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It sounds like Dr. Peterson values invective and insult over keeping his word. I can't say that I'm surprised.
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