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I'm hearing several reports about the 'church' piloting and experimenting with one hour church in select stakes in both Arizona and Utah - can anyone corroborate this? The scuttlebutt is a 25 minute sacrament meeting, 5 minute break and then 30 minutes alternating between SS and priesthood/RS every other week.

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We don’t have that, but our ward has been piloting something else for about 8 months now. In Sacrament meeting, the RS president or one of her counselors sits on the stand next to the bishopric, or on his left when one of his counselors is out of town. Every week.

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How about 5 min church over the internet? The meetings are only incidental to the collection of tithes and offerings anyway. So, why not give the people what they want?
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Mormon 8 wrote:The scuttlebutt is a 25 minute sacrament meeting, 5 minute break and then 30 minutes alternating between SS and priesthood/RS every other week.

That sounds way too far-fetched for me. I’m not buying it.

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mormon 8 wrote:The scuttlebutt is a 25 minute sacrament meeting, 5 minute break and then 30 minutes alternating between SS and priesthood/RS every other week.

That sounds way too far-fetched for me. I’m not buying it.

Good point. No need for a five-minute smoke break!
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Exiled wrote:How about 5 min church over the internet? The meetings are only incidental to the collection of tithes and offerings anyway. So, why not give the people what they want?


Yes. Online church, and at your own pace. Login for 5 minutes any time during the week at your own leisure. Instead of sitting empty most of the time, the ward buildings can sit empty all of the time. It will prevent wear and tear on their real estate investments.
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I would speculate that a fair proportion of the members who turn up on a Sunday have already imposed a one hour Church policy...
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One hour is too much. Why anyone still attends the Mormon Church is beyond me.
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Impossible!! Mormon Standard Time in getting anywhere and started already takes an hour...at least!

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I would venture that most church goers go for the social interaction. Take away that and it dies.
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What's better than 3 hour church? Two hour church.

What's better than 2 hour church? One hour church.

What's better than 1 hour church? Zero hour church. :cool:
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A truly abbreviated experience would be showing up long enough to stuff an envelope, swipe a card, or use a fund transfer app. To satisfy any spiritual aspects, there could also be a non-compunctory prayer wheel to spin followed by the one-sentence mantra, "I will obey".
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A couple of people have mentioned church via internet.

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Mormon 8 wrote:I'm hearing several reports about the 'church' piloting and experimenting with one hour church in select stakes in both Arizona and Utah - can anyone corroborate this? The scuttlebutt is a 25 minute sacrament meeting, 5 minute break and then 30 minutes alternating between SS and priesthood/RS every other week.


I can confirm from active members in Adelaide that they are trialing 1 hour church there as well.

It just makes so much economic sense. With one hour church you can squeeze more wards into fewer buildings. Naturally, there will be surplus chapels in some areas which the church can sell so it can get its hands on even more filthy lucre. Meanwhile, members will need to spend even more on travel for church meetings, ministering, seminary etc.
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2bizE wrote:I would venture that most church goers go for the social interaction. Take away that and it dies.


That, and keeping up appearances.
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Why not? If I gave one damn, I would be vocally supportive of the program. This one hour block sounds like a pretty good idea. Stop wasting members entire Sunday. Go get your spiritual message and be seen so everyone knows you are a faithful active member, and get the hell out of there and go home and watch football with the family.
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