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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:17 pm 
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That’s a metric buttload of projection by the Professor, Lemmie. I’m sorry you have to deal with that kind of crap with your family.

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Thank you. Its frustrating that, after all these years, stereotypes like this still govern some Mormon familial relationships.


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Spe@king of Midgley stalking other posters...
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Louis Midgley Wayfarer25 8 minutes ago

I have a file full of stuff by W25...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4764911761

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:02 am 
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Louis Midgley Michael Hoggan 4 hours ago

... one of them, who is or claims to be, a "highly educated native American" who is a practicing MD, who turned out to be an ethnic/racial bigot who posts on Dr. Shades very lovely board.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4764798900

Oh dear god. how many times can people apologize for this pig named Midgley? What an utter asshole he is. LOD, my apologies again for the racial slurs that exude from this animal. His behavior is execrable and inexcusable.


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Louis Midgley Michael Hoggan 4 hours ago

... one of them, who is or claims to be, a "highly educated native American" who is a practicing MD, who turned out to be an ethnic/racial bigot who posts on Dr. Shades very lovely board.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4764798900

Oh dear god. how many times can people apologize for this pig named Midgley? What an utter asshole he is. LOD, my apologies again for the racial slurs that exude from this animal. His behavior is execrable and inexcusable.

No problems. I’ve seen worse. As long as Midgley keeps to the board it will be OK, for him.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:16 am 
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Spe@king of Midgley stalking other posters...
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Louis Midgley Wayfarer25 8 minutes ago

I have a file full of stuff by W25...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4764911761

:rolleyes:

The Maxwellians will add this to their files on why Classic FARMS posed a danger to Mankind (with a note that Emperor Palpatine must not be allowed to destroy the Republic).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:13 pm 
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As usual, Midgley violates the Patheos terms of service, as quoted I; the OP:
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B. Open, yet Safe. Anyone who desires to be part of the conversation can engage, but abuse will not be tolerated.


Here he disinvites Dr. Shades:
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Louis Midgley Dr. Shades an hour ago

Dr Shades: I kindly request that you please stop posting on sic et non. Then you will not have to worry about my occasional use of your given name. Or you can just admit that you made a fool out of yourself in your comments about a perfectly harmless remark I made about my having also written my own Ph.D. dissertation on something quite like what Reverend King wrote his own dissertation on.

I trust that I am not at all inclined to take abuse from you on Dan's blog. If you care to do that sort of silly thing, please do it on your own board.

You have two options: (1) no longer post on sic ed non, which would please me and others, or (2) apologize for your crude and offensive remarks. It is your choice.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4765823837



Note the ultimatum he gives Shades. :rolleyes: When he ventured off DCP’s safe space to stalk Gina Colvin, it didn’t end well, so I understand why he makes this threat from the safety of the one place that tolerates his intolerable nonsense.


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Midgley gives details on how and why he stalks.
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Louis Midgley Doctor Dunkenstein 5 hours ago

I began way back when I was an undergraduate at the University keeping a file containing everything Hugh Nibley published or had written down. And also what his critics had to say about him in print. This eventually became the primary source for the Collected Works of Hugh Nibley. And when the two massive volumes of the Festschrift (essays honoring Hugh) were published, the first 80 plus pages was my very heavily annotated bibliography of all his then known published books and essays, as well as the unpublished items that I had in my files. Subsequently Shirley Ricks and I continued to add to that very long list of items, but without the annotations.

I also assembled a huge file of both published and unpublished essays and books by Paul Tillich, and all the then available dissertations on Tillich, that were available to that point. I also assembled what I believe was an exhaustive file of everything published on Tillich's thought to the point where I had finished my dissertation.

I also kept a modest file on W. Cleon Skousen. But so did the FBI, which investigated him three times. The FBI file is now fully available through the Freedom of Information Act. He was much less than he made himself out to be. And I once published essays in Dialogue that demonstrated that he was less than honest, and very poorly informed. Should anyone have taken seriously anything peddled by the John Birch Society?

And I also assembled a large file on and by John Dehlin, who was one of my former students. I had much more that Greg Smith could have drawn upon for his debunking of Dehlin.

And I have been printing, if not all, most of the items that Dr. VelhoBurrinho on sic et non, but not those he posts on a dreadful board. Hence, even though he has blocked access to what he has posted on Dan's blog, just as you have, I have a nice file on the Little Old Donkey. Why? When someone falsely claims that I have a latent hostility to Maori Latter-day Saints, that caught my attention.

Files are what historians assemble. By disposition and expert training my professional life has been writing intellectual history.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4765549690



:rolleyes: note that when answering the question WHY he collects personal information on others, his answer is, ‘because they insulted me.’ Midgley is the very definition of a creepy stalker. A writer of intellectual history is a distant second, and the way he does it? Definitely not what I would define as a professional endeavor.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:17 pm 
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Shades must have really left a mark when calling Midgley out for opportunistically using Martin Luther King Day as a way to boast, once again, about his Ph.D. on Paul Tillich. Midgley's present threat illustrates just how badly Shades hurt his pride.

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Remember, if Gemli sincerely converted to Mormonism (and adopted a non-threatening posture to their apologetics), people like Midgley and Peterson would become Gemli's biggest friends and supporters on a dime.


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Lemmie wrote:
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Louis Midgley Doctor Dunkenstein 5 hours ago

I began way back when I was an undergraduate at the University keeping a file containing everything Hugh Nibley published or had written down. And also what his critics had to say about him in print. This eventually became the primary source for the Collected Works of Hugh Nibley. And when the two massive volumes of the Festschrift (essays honoring Hugh) were published, the first 80 plus pages was my very heavily annotated bibliography of all his then known published books and essays, as well as the unpublished items that I had in my files. Subsequently Shirley Ricks and I continued to add to that very long list of items, but without the annotations.

I also assembled a huge file of both published and unpublished essays and books by Paul Tillich, and all the then available dissertations on Tillich, that were available to that point. I also assembled what I believe was an exhaustive file of everything published on Tillich's thought to the point where I had finished my dissertation.

I also kept a modest file on W. Cleon Skousen. But so did the FBI, which investigated him three times. The FBI file is now fully available through the Freedom of Information Act. He was much less than he made himself out to be. And I once published essays in Dialogue that demonstrated that he was less than honest, and very poorly informed. Should anyone have taken seriously anything peddled by the John Birch Society?

And I also assembled a large file on and by John Dehlin, who was one of my former students. I had much more that Greg Smith could have drawn upon for his debunking of Dehlin.

And I have been printing, if not all, most of the items that Dr. VelhoBurrinho on sic et non, but not those he posts on a dreadful board. Hence, even though he has blocked access to what he has posted on Dan's blog, just as you have, I have a nice file on the Little Old Donkey. Why? When someone falsely claims that I have a latent hostility to Maori Latter-day Saints, that caught my attention.

Files are what historians assemble. By disposition and expert training my professional life has been writing intellectual history.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4765549690



:rolleyes: note that when answering the question WHY he collects personal information on others, his answer is, ‘because they insulted me.’ Midgley is the very definition of a creepy stalker. A writer of intellectual history is a distant second, and the way he does it? Definitely not what I would define as a professional endeavor.


On a serious note it seems like Professor Midgley May be bipolar and having a bit of a manic episode.

I’m starting to wonder how much of a friend DCP is letting Midgley run loose like that. And what purpose does it serve?

I have observed him at a FAIR conference on two occasions. He seemed much more subdued.


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Midgley explains his own personal inconsistencies and irrationalities:

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Don't ever expect either consistency or much in the way of rationality from those driven by hatred.

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I suggest users who are worried about Professor Midgley’s mental and emotional health report his rules violations to Disqus here:

https://about.disqus.com/tos-violation-submission

Since Mr. Peterson is clearly using this frail man as his foil and won’t take measures to enforce Disqus’ rules on his blog, perhaps they need some actual adults to step in and pump the brakes on this hateful bully pulpit .

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Lemmie wrote:
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Files are what historians assemble. By disposition and expert training, my professional life has been writing intellectual history.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4765549690

Someone at BYU needs to do an intervention before this stalking becomes an embarrassment and a lawsuit.

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I was not assuming the worst. That is your gig. I was merely pointing out that by insisting that you don't stink up the pace [sic] on sic et non, they [sic] you put it, entails that you fowl [sic] your on nest on your own thing, does it not?

I’m starting to think Mr. Peterson is purposely letting the Midge embarrass himself. Did they ever have a falling out that would cause Mr. Peterson to hold a grudge?

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I think it's a sink or swim mentality, perhaps a little shadenfreude? No one of substance jumped in when Jenkins was slowly steam rolling them. Maybe, that's how they roll?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:35 pm 
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Midgley is seriously touchy about this Maori thing. He has really ratcheted up his stalking to a new level.
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Louis Midgley Dr. VelhoBurrinho an hour ago

Twenty hours ago Dr. VelhoBurrinho responded to an account I provided of a meeting that several of us had with Elder Marlin Jensen that took place Church Archive in Salt Lake City,. This meeting took place before it had been opened to the public. The meeting was focused on Dr. Robert Joseph, a very distinguished Maori Latter-day Saint scholar.

Dr. VelhoBurrinho does not seem to get the point of this true story. So, after thought and prayer, I will again try to help Dr. VelhoBurrinho see in several ways that he has been flatly wrong in what he has posted what I have written about the Maori Latter-day historical narrative, and hence also me.

I am more than a little annoyed that Dr. VelhoBurrinho keeps doubling down on the foolish and inaccurate things he has previously posted about me and what I have published on Maori Latter-day Saints.

Twenty hours ago he posted the following:
[Note: I number VB's paragraphs, and identify my own remarks by LM--that is Louis Midgley.]

1. "Yes I will admit," Dr. VelhoBurrinho acknowledged, " that I did challenge you by calling you out for cultural appropriation, in your approach your 'defense' articles."

LM: Please notice this sentence is garbled. What VB seems to mean "cultural appropriation" is that Latter-day Saint "white men" (always ?) invent what they want to believe about indigenous peoples. They also force indigenous peoples believe what they have invented. This seems to be what he had mind when he wrote the following: "in your approach [in] your 'defense' articles." He wrongly believes, because he is clearly a racial bigot, that I have invented a Maori world in what he calls my "defense articles." And I am seeking to force my opinions of the Maori Latter-day Saints. He wrongly believes that this is also what Latter-day Saint "white men" do. This is both wrong; it is also a clear indication of racial bigotry.

2. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "Somehow you claim that by me questioning you that I am hostile to the Maori. Which is not the truth. You can re read the posts."

LM: I have never once said that you are hostile to Maori.

3. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "You took it from there, into a very ugly narrative over and over. I have been very measured on what I have said back. You have not."

LM: I have printed every comment that Dr. VelhoBurrinho has posted on this and related issues. I did this because he has blocked access to what he has posted on sic et non. This self-assessment of his performance is not supported by what he has posted.

4. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "From this point you on you can disagree challenge or mock anything I say here. And will I reserve the right to respectfully challenge you back, but I will keep it civil. As a educated man I expect the same from you."

LM: I am pleased that Dr. VelhoBurrinho will henceforth strive for civility. I urge him to also strive for both accuracy and coherence.

5. Dr. VelhoBurrinho "You stalking me outside of this board. Is unacceptable in any manner. At minimum it is a violation of the terms of service for this board. And you seriously run the risk of getting this blog/forum shut down."

LM: How exactly could I possibly "stalk" Dr. VelhoBurrinho "outside of this board"? [Please note that sic et non is Daniel C. Peterson's blog, and not a board.] I know that Dr. VelhoBurrinho posts on Jason's MD board only because VB quoted on sic et non some garbled language about his own objections to efforts to defend the faith of the Saints that he posted there. I then twisted his tail about what he quoted himself as having posted on that board. Even an rational person is not likely to see that as "stalking."

Without being at all familiar with the huge literature defending the faith of Latter-day Saints, and obviously relying on gossip, Dr. VelhoBurrinho lectured those on Jason's board about he thinks that defending the faith is "counterproductive." To me this is like someone who has never had their teeth cleaned insisting that doing this is useless.

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I was not assuming the worst. That is your gig. I was merely pointing out that by insisting that you don't stink up the pace [sic] on sic et non, they [sic] you put it, entails that you fowl [sic] your on nest on your own thing, does it not?

I’m starting to think Mr. Peterson is purposely letting the Midge embarrass himself. Did they ever have a falling out that would cause Mr. Peterson to hold a grudge?

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Never let the Midge tell you he doesn’t check this board constantly. He went back and fixed the errors noted above, but not before Dr. Shades made the comment the former’s post was illegible. Note in the following comment, that even for the smallest of things a Mopologist will dissemble and lie about it:

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Louis “I don’t know the difference between fowl and foul” Midglet > Dr. Shades 15 hours ago

[Dr. Shades’ irl info removed] : A typographical error does not make something illegible or make it illegible wording.

I had no idea that ‘no slam dunks’ means falling on your goddamn sword for every little thing. Midgley is pathetic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:15 pm 
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The one posting as Moksha, without intending to do so, actually does us a bit favor by demonstrating that those who intentionally turn against the gospel of Jesus Christ thereby become "carnal, selfish and devilish."

See Mosiah 3. Hugh Nibley also liked to point out that they also often become stupid. This illustrates what is known as Novak's Rule.

I should also point out, for those who never knew or who have forgotten, Mosiah is a book found in the Book of Mormon.

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Can someone who is following the blog help me out here? Who is using Shades's IRL? Is this something that Shades disclosed himself on the blog or what exactly happened there?

Feel free to PM me the answer if someone feels it's more appropriate.

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