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Midgley paused briefly, but the attacks are back. Notice this is 5 specific attacks in less than 20 minutes, always rudely addressing him is the 3rd person. What an embarrassment for Peterson's blog:
Louis Midgley > gemli • 3 minutes ago

Just like he has master both science in general and some specific science, without publishing a single essay. That is how it is when one knows all the answers before one even know a single question. As I have indicated, I feel sorrow for gemli.
Louis Midgley > DanielPeterson • 3 minutes ago

It seems that gemli's command of the plausible alternative explanation is as weak as his command of both history and science. I feel sorry for gemli. I pity those who insist on painting themselves into corners, and have to resort to a silly quip in an effort to avoid the problem they have created for themselves.
Louis Midgley > gemli • 10 minutes ago

...I have paid the price to do just that. Poor gemli has not lifted a finger except to type still another bit of his dogmatic religion.

Louis Midgley > gemli • 13 minutes ago

...My point is that poor gemli simply has made exactly no effort to accomplish much of anything of genuine worth. Instead, he seem disinterested in anything but posting thousands of time the essentially the few elements of his dogmatic religion.

Louis Midgley > DanielPeterson • 20 minutes ago

Poor gemli does not see how odd his remarks are to Latter-day Saints.

...Poor gemli seems to think that he knows everything about anything worth knowing, both in the intellectual world, including the Book of Mormon without giving it and the vast literature on is even a casual glance. He brushes aside the Book of Mormon without even glancing at its cover. This mindless dogmatism is matched by his indifference to such things as actually seeing the Vasa in Stockholm or reading about it. Or using the Tube to get to know London. One who is not at all interested in actually visiting different places in the world, or reading about what is out there, can make all kinds of bald assertions about things about which he knows very little if not exactly nothing.

I feel sorry for gemli. This is why I describe him as poor gemli.

Bolding by me, to note how utterly despicable a comment that is to make about a commenter online, when he does not know much about this person's life at all, except that he is not LDS and he disagrees with many of Midgley's points. (And of course, any minor information gemli has given is mocked and derided endlessly and irrelevantly by Midgley.)

Midgley has indicated before that he seems to believe that being LDS is the dividing point between worth and worthlessness, in his mind, of fellow human beings. That's a sad legacy for the church in which I was raised.

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And this is why gemli is the master:
Gemli > Louis Midgley • 12 minutes ago

Lou, please keep posting. Your insecure, defensive tirades are a joy to read!


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Louis Midgley > gemli • 5 minutes ago

I am here to please even people who accuse me of "insecure, defensive tirades" even when they post rubbish.

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gemli > Louis Midgley • 3 minutes ago

You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work!




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Midge's insults are gutting boring, but gemli is refreshingly creative in his responses. Enjoy:
gemli > Louis Midgley • 10 minutes ago

You might benefit from a silly quip or two every now and then. I suspect you're projecting certain disappointments and negative feelings onto me, but I'm OK with that. Flail away!


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gemli > Louis Midgley • 3 minutes ago

If you flail the way you do without even knowing how, you are definitely a prodigy.
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gemli > Louis Midgley • 44 minutes ago • edited

Regarding the Book of Mormon, I most certainly have glanced at the cover.

I accept your accusation of my mindless dogmatism. After all, you're the expert.
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gemli > Louis Midgley • 3 minutes ago

If you're looking for my thesis under the name "gemli," you're probably not going to find it. You do realize, I hope, that "gemli" is not my real name...?

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Good grief. Midgley has a filthy mouth, and DCP pretends it's "intrinsically" acceptable:
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Brad Anderson, Utah > Louis Midgley • an hour ago • edited

Lois:” There are people who can't seem to spit or swallow when it comes to the Church of Jesus Christ.”

Lois, could you please clean up your language? There are many other descriptors that aren’t nearly as pornographic. Just a thought.


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DanielPeterson Mod > Brad Anderson, Utah • 30 minutes ago

There's nothing pornographic about either spitting or swallowing, BAUT.


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Brad Anderson, Utah > DanielPeterson • 19 minutes ago

DP: “There is nothing pornographic about spitting or swallowing.”

If you truly believe that then be my guest to google “spitting or swallowing.”

I’m sure nothing inappropriate will pop up. Good luck!


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DanielPeterson Mod > Brad Anderson, Utah • 15 minutes ago • edited

I'm quite well aware of what you have in mind, but there is nothing intrinsically pornographic about spitting and swallowing.

Not in my world, anyway.

I suggest that you not try too hard to make this an issue.


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Brad Anderson, Utah > DanielPeterson • 4 minutes ago

DP, I think we all know what Lois Midgley meant, and I for one think he can use more appropriate and faith promoting language.

To each his own, I guess. Enjoy the rest of your evening DP.


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DanielPeterson Mod > Brad Anderson, Utah • 2 minutes ago

I doubt very much that Dr. Louis Midgley -- please note the proper spelling of his first name -- had in mind anything remotely like the pornographic image that unfortunately sprang so insistently to yours.

I've known him well for decades.

So what did Midgley have in mind then, DCP? Please, enlighten us.

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It looks like a faithful member who uses his IRL name, Brad Anderson of Utah, has been banned permanently from Sic Et Non. He was a model of civil dialogue -- a real example to everyone who posts at Sic Et Non. No doubt the break Midgley took from demeaning Gemli as a person was due to Anderson's loving suggestions to follow the Savior. He's a guy who made a difference. We'll miss you, Brad.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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Gadianton wrote:It looks like a faithful member who uses his IRL name, Brad Anderson of Utah, has been banned permanently from Sic Et Non. He was a model of civil dialogue -- a real example to everyone who posts at Sic Et Non. No doubt the break Midgley took from demeaning Gemli as a person was due to Anderson's loving suggestions to follow the Savior. He's a guy who made a difference. We'll miss you, Brad.

I saw that.

DanielPeterson Mod > Brad Anderson, Utah • 30 minutes ago • edited

I doubt very much that Dr. Louis Midgley -- please note the proper spelling of his first name -- had in mind anything remotely like the pornographic image that unfortunately sprang so insistently to yours.

I've known him well for decades.

I suspect that he's not as familiar with the vocabulary of contemporary pornography as you are.

Incidentally, I note your double use of my initials. I hope that you enjoyed your little joke, because, as it turns out, it occurs in your last comment on my blog.

I don't tolerate obscenity here.

And... back to Google search for me. Malkie warned me not to search the double initial thing, but online Mormonism is clearly not for the faint of heart. Peterson got the pornographic reference, Midgley made the pornographic reference, but poor Brad got booted for objecting to the pornographic reference. This is not the Mormon world I grew up in. Wish me luck!

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Madre de Dios.

Stephen Smoot, Louis Midgley, and Daniel Peterson have now introduced me to the most pornographic language I have EVER in my life heard.

The residual effects of the Mormon Priesthood. :rolleyes: The Bronx is a shimmering Garden of Well-spoken Loveliness compared to these guys.

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it's an interesting commentary on Mormon values actually. You know how back in the day, you could watch Rambo or or whatever else in terms of violence, but even subtle sexuality got the TV turned off? Not me until later teens -- but for most of my Mormon friends violence was okay. I remember in eighth grade, this new kid who was somewhat Mormon, had just moved from Germany, and he said that he had a huge porn collection. Back then that seemed quite shocking. All can rest assured I never saw this collection, he didn't live close by me or anything, but I was curious about how that was even possible. He said his mom didn't really care if he watched porn but he wasn't allowed to watch anything at all that was violent.

It's a real stretch to say Brad was thinking of some extreme thing (and no, I haven't looked it up and I'm not going to) when he was also, for some reason, misspelling Mr. Midgley's first name. Assuming that he was guilty, it's interesting the level of feigned disgust the apologists have for a jocular sexual reference no matter how subtle, it's an offense that guarantees banning. But yet, it's a big joke to make a Klan reference to Mark's name, as if the violence that goes along with extreme forms of racism is something that can be tolerated at least to a degree in humor, but any kind of sexual humor? To the Lions!
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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Gadianton wrote:it's an interesting commentary on Mormon values actually. You know how back in the day, you could watch Rambo or or whatever else in terms of violence, but even subtle sexuality got the TV turned off? Not me until later teens -- but for most of my Mormon friends violence was okay. I remember in eighth grade, this new kid who was somewhat Mormon, had just moved from Germany, and he said that he had a huge porn collection. Back then that seemed quite shocking. All can rest assured I never saw this collection, he didn't live close by me or anything, but I was curious about how that was even possible. He said his mom didn't really care if he watched porn but he wasn't allowed to watch anything at all that was violent.

It's a real stretch to say Brad was thinking of some extreme thing (and no, I haven't looked it up and I'm not going to) when he was also, for some reason, misspelling Mr. Midgley's first name. Assuming that he was guilty, it's interesting the level of feigned disgust the apologists have for a jocular sexual reference no matter how subtle, it's an offense that guarantees banning. But yet, it's a big joke to make a Klan reference to Mark's name, as if the violence that goes along with extreme forms of racism is something that can be tolerated at least to a degree in humor, but any kind of sexual humor? To the Lions!

I know, he recently referred to that Klan reference as "very gentle ribbing" of Mark. Right.

One of the first Sic et Non posts I ever saw was the one where he used a historical picture of a black man being lynched and compared his perceived harassment of himself to that. I was pretty shocked. Even when the inappropriateness was brought to his attention, he didn't seem to get it.

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To your point though, while the senior staff writer himself is not the type to use "potty" language, and will make a big stand against critics on the mildest infraction, a blind eye will be turned to his peers. Pretty much everyone else on his team has a big problem with a foul mouth, and certain examples are off the charts.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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Gadianton wrote:To your point though, while the senior staff writer himself is not the type to use "potty" language, and will make a big stand against critics on the mildest infraction, a blind eye will be turned to his peers. Pretty much everyone else on his team has a big problem with a foul mouth, and certain examples are off the charts.


I agree totally. I asked my never-mo, Irish catholic altar boy born and bred in the Bronx spouse what he thought about these potty mouthed Mormon guys and after laughing for 10 minutes straight, I am finally able to share with you what he said. In the most matter of fact tone possible, he said:

"Well yeah, of course. They're into porn."


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Omg I think I will never stop laughing.

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Mr. Midgley has quite a tale for how he came up with that phrase -- yes, it even involves the Supreme Court, how could it not?

Whatever the meaning, it just sounds low and crude. Had I ever said anything like that in company of my parents growing up it would have been the last thing I said for a week -- no matter what the meaning supposedly is. And had I used that phrase in the same sentence as the name of Jesus Christ, well, that might have been good for the apologists because I might not have lived to tell the tale.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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My sincere thoughts on the Midget? I think he is down right terrified that gemli will man handle them on issues of science IF THEY WOULD LET HIM, and they know it. Therefore, Midgley does absolutely everything to NOT engage in any serious analysis with Gemli. He mocks, accuses, and ad homs like crazy in order to hide his actual fear, that of being wrong and shown that he is wrong with real evidence that he knows exists. Did either Midget or Peterson at all show that Hamblin was right when he debated Jenkins? Did either of them actually engage against Jenkins with actual evidence in order to forestall the literal slaughter against their own brother? Of course not. We know why too. For all of his bluff and bluster, Midget literally has no depth or content on any subject. Have you noticed that? Please tell me I am not the only one to see this.
Is Midgely serious? Peterson's blog is a patty-cake, surface only, all too frequently plagiarized bit of ephemeral nonsense. Why would anyone suppose avatars must be real? Midgley has lost his tiny little mind. Maybe he can go over to never-neverland and harass Peter Pan for not really knowing how to fly. -Lemmie-

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Peterson’s track-record in this vein is... interesting. Dr. Robbers and other old school posters might remember the good ol’ days when DCP used to post here, and part of this involved him talking about his stint as bishop of a student ward. Someone—Polygamy Porter or Harmony, perhaps—was picking on him about the fact that, in that role, he’s pretty much obliged to ask his parishioners about their sexual habits (I.e., “the law of chastity”). When pressed on this topic, he *actually said*—and I kid you not—that he asked some members of his ward about coitus interruptus! Why on earth would he see a need to do such a thing? When you remember that those in the ward were mostly young, early twenties Mormons, and he’s this middle-aged guy asking them this.... well, I think you get the point.

And then there was the whole “Socialcam”/ Jennifer Lopez “hot booty shaking” thing.

But this latest thing? I hate to point out the obvious, but DCP himself banned Brad because DCP himself apparently knows what “DP” means. How does DCP know what that is? Did someone in his High Priest Quorum tell him about it? And who can know to a certainty that that’s what Brad meant? I guess Peterson must have received a prompting from the Holy Ghost, or something?
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Gadianton wrote:Mr. Midgley has quite a tale for how he came up with that phrase -- yes, it even involves the Supreme Court, how could it not?

Whatever the meaning, it just sounds low and crude. Had I ever said anything like that in company of my parents growing up it would have been the last thing I said for a week -- no matter what the meaning supposedly is. And had I used that phrase in the same sentence as the name of Jesus Christ, well, that might have been good for the apologists because I might not have lived to tell the tale.


I found the story implausible. Who was the Chief Justice at the time? Rehnquist? And Midgley misses the whole dinner because of his issue swallowing meat? If this was true, and he “stood up” the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, he would have been persona non grata in upper-echelon LDS circles for life. Do you really think that Elder Maxwell would have had any use for some jackass who blows a networking and missionary opportunity like that over an unchewed piece of meat?
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Midgley has some advice for himself, as well as more pornographic references...
Louis Midgley • a day ago

I have recently received three Google Alerts that send me to a despicable message board, whose owner represents himself as Dr. Shades. Virtually every item that mentions me is false in most every possible way. And also filled with a strange and unhealthy and unnecessary hatred. What these alerts also indicate is that quite a few people spend a great deal of time going over and over what gets posted on this blog. There are people who can't seem to spit or swallow when it comes to the Church of Jesus Christ.
:rolleyes: somebody should do him a favor and tell him he really needs to stop using this phrase.


If one does not care to seek sanctification, why not grow roses, or do something worthwhile other than be constantly at war with the gospel of Jesus Christ?

Hmm... who is constantly at war with anyone who disagrees with anything posted on Sic et Non? Constantly. Pornographically. Angrily. Cyber-stalking has no better representation than Midgley.
The shady Fake Doctor who runs that board, the name of which I cannot seem to even remember,

Mormon. The word is Mormon. But yes,Mormons are supposed o pretend they have always disavowed that name, so his point is faithful, at least.

ought to think about this and see if he and his minions, most of whom hide their miserable identities behind fake names, can figure out something better than venting hatred.

Venting hatred pretty much describes Midgley's posting history. Do roses not grow in Utah?
David Hume argued that "reason is and ought to be the slave of the passions." But he had in mind the calm and not the violent passions. Failure to restrain the violent passions is a major cause of the evils that afflict the world, is it not?

I would agree. If Midgley could stop violently and passionately abusing the commenters on Sic et Non, Hume would be proud.

Does anyone find something lovely and of good report....

Well, now we are on shaky ground. Midgley's spit or swallow, Smoot's bukake, and Peterson's banning of a poster because he considers his own initials "DP" to indicate an obscenity are NOT anything I would describe as 'lovely and of good report'.....

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I can't stand the attackers when they pretend to be victims. Please Dr. Midgley and Dr. Peterson, quit whining and act like adults and please for the love of your Mormon god, stop with the feigned ignorance of the porn references. We all know you know what you are doing and saying.
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Gad wrote:Whatever the meaning, it just sounds low and crude. Had I ever said anything like that in company of my parents growing up it would have been the last thing I said for a week -- no matter what the meaning supposedly is. And had I used that phrase in the same sentence as the name of Jesus Christ, well, that might have been good for the apologists because I might not have lived to tell the tale.


Oh, I hasten to add: Had I ever said such a thing, regardless of the alleged meaning, in a sentence along with the name of Jesus, and then after getting scolded, made up an origin story for the expression that placed me as the underdog in a David vs. Goliath scenario where I emerged triumphant over a national power, then I'd best have just got my passport stamped for the Seventh Circle of Hell and got on with it.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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What was the point of bringing up Hume, anyway? (and his interpretation wouldn't stand, by the way). That was like another Midgleyism from the same comment section I think, where he revealed something very general was "known to the French." I got the feeling the lesser educated non-believers were supposed to be impressed by his great range of learning.

But my favorite Midgleyism from yesterday was, when he went into a tirade about anonymity, and somebody called him on it for some of the posters on Sic Et Non, including Kiwi57. His response was to say that he knew who Kiw57 was in real life so that was okay. lol. Now that's one of those revealing moments about Mopologist psychology.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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