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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:38 pm 
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Well, it looks like the question of whether McKenna Denson is making it all up has finally been answered. SPOILER (click-and-drag to read): She made it all up.

Here's the audio of her last phone conversation with NewNameNoah, lasting 14 minutes and 54 seconds. Consider it a "sneak preview" to the longer video farther below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWguWDnRg-I

Clocking in at 42 minutes and 04 seconds, here's the exposé video to which he alluded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvZPuduWqU8

And thus the book closes on this chapter of Mormon history, such that it was.

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Thanks for posting that.

Now to check it out!

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So much for simply wanting the truth to come out. Bishop confessed to his deeds and now it'll be sold as a senior moment. I wonder if McKenna finally realized she wasn't going to get any $$$ or at least the $$$ she wanted and took matters into her own hands?

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Oh my. My, my.

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Maybe someone broke into her house and spiked her orange juice with dosages of Disassociative Identity Disorder and Making Stuff Up.

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So much for simply wanting the truth to come out. Bishop confessed to his deeds and now it'll be sold as a senior moment. I wonder if McKenna finally realized she wasn't going to get any $$$ or at least the $$$ she wanted and took matters into her own hands?

That's the true head-scratcher in all this. Why did he admit to everything if she made it all up? A "senior moment" doesn't account for his lucid memories of, "Were you the one with the biker friends?" and "Were you the one with the breast augmentation?"

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TL;DR (or listen to it): she told Shawn McCraney in September 2018 that someone had previously spiked her orange juice with Drano, and also accused another man of putting the date rape drug in her orange juice. The new orange juice claim was made in February / March 2019. She has a long history of suing people on frivolous and made-up charges and has accused at least 5 men of rape. She has been arrested 9 separate times and has an outstanding warrant or two for her arrest. She has repeatedly taken money for non-existent cancer treatment. He accuses her of faking the recent battery and blowing up her own car and putting Drano in her own orange juice.

In regards to Joseph Bishop, though NNN thinks Bishop is a man of "questionable moral integrity," NNN no longer believes that he raped Denson because Denson has no credibility. He still thinks the LDS church has a serious problem with protecting sexual predators and gives several examples, including his own uncle (the president of the New York, Manhattan temple).

He calls her the Mark Hofmann / Paul H. Dunn of the ex-Mormon community.

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If Bishop did the alleged acts in his sex room that Denson claims, chalk it up to another predator victory. Predators target the unstable and unpopular, so they can win the credibility battle after the fact. I hope her nuttiness doesn't completely ruin the case as nutty unstable people get raped and molested too ..... but ..... this plus her history seems like a killer to credibility. Even so, Bishop admitted to bad acts with women and had the basement sex room .....

Thinking about this, her attorneys will probably be withdrawing soon? Maybe she'll represent herself? However, sometimes the evidence against the perp is so strong, it can overcome the weak witnesses. I wonder what Wells said or if it was just a bunch of I don't recall, etc.?

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In addition, he recites a police report that states she ingested some break-away X-acto blades in a P.F. Chang's bathroom in order to extort money from that company.

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He calls her the Mark Hofmann / Paul H. Dunn of the ex-Mormon community.

To clarify, he said that if Mark Hofmann and Paul H. Dunn got gay married and had a baby, that baby would be her.

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Even so, Bishop admitted to bad acts with women and had the basement sex room .....

This is anecdotal, but I know a former employee of the M.T.C. who was there the same time Bishop was. She says he gave her the creeps and she avoided him as much as possible.

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I wonder what Wells said or if it was just a bunch of I don't recall, etc.?

Who is "Wells?"

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Robert E. Wells, former 70 and Bishop's friend. He was the 70 over Bishop when Bishop was a MP in Argentina and probably had a hand in recommending Bishop to be MTC Pres.

Wells is a witness in the case and was deposed not too long ago.

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Listening to the first. I feel a little sick. :eek:

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Finished both videos.

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Finished both videos.

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I know, right?

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Finished both videos.

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I know, right?

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Look at her Facebook.

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I started the first video but stopped after Norton said he'd put a bullet between her eyes if she showed up at his house. This after having said he'd break her nose if she was there in person.

Denson turning out to be what she turned out to be is unfortunate for the blowback it will inevitable cause. Norton being who he is and still strongly associated with the post-mo community? I think that's still pretty messed up, too. I think the lesson is to keep your distance from people like both of them.

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If Bishop did the alleged acts in his sex room that Denson claims, chalk it up to another predator victory. Predators target the unstable and unpopular, so they can win the credibility battle after the fact.


As I was reading your comment I wasn't thinking of Bishop as the predator.

Denson was at least 21 years old when she entered the MTC, and was a pretty messed up sociopath/pathological liar given what we know about her now. It leaves me wondering if she is the real predator here.

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Saw this coming after her ridiculous Facebook claims a few weeks back.

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a lot said to be cautious about her. She caused so much harm with this claim. So many backed her, so much fighting between exMos and TBMs over her claims. She's an absolute monster.

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Denson was at least 21 years old when she entered the MTC, and was a pretty messed up sociopath/pathological liar given what we know about her now.

Are you sure she was that way before she entered the M.T.C.? I'm wondering if maybe the abuse up to and including that point--assuming, for the sake of the argument, that any of it actually happened--is what made her what she is.

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It leaves me wondering if she is the real predator here.

To extort megabucks out of the church, I'm guessing?

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