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 Post subject: HBO's "Room 104" w/Mormon Missionaries Misses the Mark
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:35 pm 
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Don't know where to begin...the show is based on a fictional motel room #104 and the people who rent it. In this episode the story revolves around two Mormon missionaries who for no comprehensiveable reason are in a motel room...with a TV, on demand porn channels and no cooking facilities. Even on my mission when traveling throughout my mission I was never in a motel until the night before I left my mission, we always stayed with other elders. Missionaries don't live in motels period and would never have a bedroom with a tv ever.

Anyway, After a hard day of tracting, the elders return to their room, and slip into a conversation about how futile their missionary everts have been and despite all of their work they've yet to find a single convert. One elder confesses doubts while the other offers encouragement in their work and urges that the stay with "The Path". Then the doubter confesses that he drank coffee and that he liked it. The characterization of how the writers view these Mormon missionaries is comical in its stereotypeing and typical , in my opinion, of how non Mormons view missionaries.

After some more discussion the doubter suggests they pray to god and seek a sign (oh yeah missionaries do that right? Not) to which immediacy after prayer the other missionary sits on the tv remote which turns on the tv which just conveniently to tuned to a porn channel. Of course the missionaries see this as a sign that god wants then to sin and experiment.

So that evening they slip into Mormon hedonism trying their first beer, get drunk, drinking more coffee and even watching hetro porn and masturbation.

There seems to be an under current homoerotic tension between the two elders during the entire story, despite their having earlier madterbated to heterosexual porn. The story ends with the non doubter suggesting they Go there and experiment on all of their urges...and fades to black.

It's was so off the mark in so many ways, the story completely disregarded how deep the programming goes with missionaries and Mormons for that matter and made it appear that Mormons would "sin" at the drop of a hat. Hell it took me 2-3 years after leaving the church before I even tried coffee...that's how deep my programming went...and several years later until I finally tried alcohol.

The show completely missed the mark, made Mormons appear shallow, weak in our beliefs and commitment to our faith and ready to sin with just a suggestion. Overall disappointing

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 Post subject: Re: HBO's "Room 104" w/Mormon Missionaries Misses the Mark
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:46 pm 
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I have a friend that went zero to 100 on his mission. Pre-mission was typical Mormon kid. Never drank and barely kissed a girl. On his mission he decided that was his time to let loose. When it was all said and done, he was writing home to his parents asking for "food" money to which he was sneaking out at night and buying prostitutes.

So, my Mormon experience would be much like yours in that it was a deep mental ____ to deal with that took years to deprogram. However, I do know of at least some that would fall under the category of room 104.

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 Post subject: Re: HBO's "Room 104" w/Mormon Missionaries Misses the Mark
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:35 pm 
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I had a companion that would masturbate in his bed every night. He didn't try to hide it and it was utterly disgusting. I finally got myself transferred to another companion, who was worse than he was. I saw missionaries do the most despicable things. On the flip side, I had quite a few companions who were stellar. Made it all worthwhile to me. So there's good and bad Missionaries, like there is good and bad in everyone. I think though, that Mormonism is frequently portrayed incorrectly on television, a good example the recent show "Hell on Wheels". I loved the show, but the writers knew little about Mormonism IMO or figured they could take artistic liberties at the expense of the Mormons.

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 Post subject: Re: HBO's "Room 104" w/Mormon Missionaries Misses the Mark
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:55 pm 
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I feel like it hits the mark as an exaggerated depiction of what some missionaries feel like and think about, taken to an extreme and almost absurdist level (felt more for compressing everything as it does into a half hour show). But it has some insight and nuance. It may not have been *your* specific experience, Craig, but a fictional portrayal like that will never be everyone's. And as grindael and Sanctorian describe, it's not out of the realm of reality for some.

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 Post subject: Re: HBO's "Room 104" w/Mormon Missionaries Misses the Mark
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:25 pm 
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Would a 100% accurate portrayal of missionaries be watchable for an entire episode? Remember, HBO does not want its viewers switching channels to PBS out of boredom.

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It would be better if BYUTV were to make a missionary portrayal, starting with young Elder David Lister knocking on on the front door of his first house and then stepping inside. It could be followed by a Kubrick-like 2001 montage of Elder Lister's life from baptizing the entire family of that first house, to his victory homecoming at the airport, to his ward debriefing ceremony, to his marriage a few months later, to his graduation from BYU, to holding his first child, to being surrounded by grandchildren, to his funeral were Elder Floyd C. Backer would make it a missionary opportunity, to his standing in a room full of white sheets and knocking at the veil.

It would have it all, full of LDS ethos and pathos right there on the screen. Now that would be a worthy missionary video. Would need to check with the correlation committee to see if they would prefer Thus Spake Zarathustra or Come Come Ye Saints during the closing credits?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:55 pm 
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The episode seemed like it was written about Mormons but not likely from a Mormon. The religious language was unique but not very Mormon sounding.


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