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 Post subject: Has the Church ever published an unknown critical document?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:23 am 
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In another thread, there was speculation about the lost 116 pages being found and potentially being published by the church. I doubt the story and even more so doubt the church would publish them if they did have sole possession.

There has been a lot of talk lately about how the church is being more transparent with materials in its possession and many point to the Joseph Smith Papers project as proof the church is no longer hiding problematic documents.

Does anyone know if the church has ever published a document that was critical of the church, which was also unknown up until they published it?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:48 am 
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The Journal of Discourses, maybe? :lol:

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Not published but they have allowed access to some documents at the CHL... but you have to find them yourself and it's difficult.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:20 pm 
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how about the glen r pace report on sex abuse-that may have slipped through the cracks onto the public scene without corporate ok or knowledge.


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kairos wrote:
how about the glen r pace report on sex abuse-that may have slipped through the cracks onto the public scene without corporate ok or knowledge.


That was leaked, not published.

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The council of 50 meeting minutes

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Craig Paxton wrote:
The council of 50 meeting minutes

Those were not unknown.

I guess what I am asking is, do we have any evidence for or against the church having documents in its possession that it is hiding due to the nature of the documents which are not already known to be in its possession?

Of course I realize the difficulty in finding that out so I am asking about what they have published or allowed people to see that came as a surprise to those in the know.

Grindael above pointed out that there is some access to documents at the CHL but I have to wonder if that is restricted to documents the church has already reviewed or if it is clear no one has looked at them in quite some time.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:50 pm 
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Leonard Arrington accumulated church private documents and the church sent officials to utah state
university to scour the contents of his files- they claimed large numbers were taken without church permission and the Hinckster had to go face to face with the usu president to decide the matter- according to greg prince arrington's official biographer the number of docs returned to the church were a box or two. So i think usu may have some gems in the arrington file which is quite large.


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Fence Sitter wrote:
I guess what I am asking is, do we have any evidence for or against the church having documents in its possession that it is hiding due to the nature of the documents which are not already known to be in its possession?

Of course I realize the difficulty in finding that out so I am asking about what they have published or allowed people to see that came as a surprise to those in the know.

Grindael above pointed out that there is some access to documents at the CHL but I have to wonder if that is restricted to documents the church has already reviewed or if it is clear no one has looked at them in quite some time.


This is the million dollar question that won't be discovered until the mythical millennium. So, nothing to speculate about as to what we might be able to see if some organization actually decided to really be transparent.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:54 am 
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Along similar lines - has the church or it’s prophets ever revealed anything that wasn’t already known?

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