LDS Bishop arrested for sexual abuse of two boys.

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LDS Bishop arrested for sexual abuse of two boys.

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Officers with the Mapleton Police Department arrested a man Wednesday on reports of sexually abusing two underage boys.

Police reports state on April 20, a now 18-year-old man told police he was sexually abused by a man about three years ago.

The young man said Erik Hughes, 51, was at first very friendly and provided him with what the male thought was melatonin to help him sleep. But it made him disoriented and Hughes told him he must’ve given him the wrong pill.

On another occasion, Hughes gave the young man a smoothie. The young man reported that the smoothie was bitter and after he finished drinking it, he felt woozy and disoriented, just like when he took the pills earlier.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/c ... a282b.html

Police reports state Hughes is a bishop of a ward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and was at the time of the reported abuse.

Remember, as another thread points out - LDS Bishops conduct one to one interviews with underage children during which they discuss matters of a sexual nature. In any other walk of life this would be deemed 'grooming'. At what point, how many of these kinds of cases (which must now run into the thousands) where an individual in a position of authority within the LDS Church has utilised that position to facilitate sexual abuse, is it going to take before someone at Church Headquarters decides something needs to change?

It's a pandemic. Abusers are utilising the Church to gain access to victims.

Here's another one.

Higa was arrested on Wednesday.

Higa became known for using karate to motivate young people and deliver LDS teachings. He encouraged young men to earn their Eagle Scout awards and serve missions for The Church of Jesus of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, according to stories profiling his work by the Deseret News and KSL-TV in 2012.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44741996&nid=148

Question for the FP - How many victims will it take before you take proper action to protect members children from being targeted by people appointed by "inspiration"?

I'll give you a simple and easy one to start with - immediately put in place a policy that no child/minor is to be interviewed by any leader unless accompanied by their parent or guardian. There's no theological or doctrinal barrier to that one, so the only reason that you wouldn't put such a policy in place is if you are wilfully negligent. With the wonders of modern communication you could have this in place by Sunday and have a letter read out over every pulpit informing all members of the new policy.

Note: The Church leaders won't put this policy in place, won't communicate etc. because that would be admitting a failure in the inspiration of choosing leaders, admitting the organization has a problem with abusers in positions of trust. They care more about that than they do about stopping the next incident of a members child being abused.

So sit back and watch nothing change, along will come more preventable incidents of this nature.
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God never apologizes, according to Oaks, and change, however beneficial, might be seen as such.
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I have a question wrote:Remember, as another thread points out - LDS Bishops conduct one to one interviews with underage children during which they discuss matters of a sexual nature.


I agree one to one interviews are a problem, you are completely right to point it out. However, I think the root of the problem is church's war on sex. Ending the war on sex would help reduce rape and abuse, and would do much more than ending one on one interviews. Why?

PhD Psychologist Christopher Ryan wrote, "Denied food, water, or freedom of movement, people will get desperate and some may lash out at what they perceive as the source of their problems, albeit in a weakened state...Unfortunately, the distorted rage resulting from sexual repression rarely takes the form of rebellion against the people and institutions behind the repression. (If it did, perhaps we'd be reading of abused priests rather than priests as abusers.)...There's little question that the centuries-long campaign of child rape enabled by institutional cover-up is a direct result of the Church's inhumane teachings concerning human sexuality. If priests—gay, straight, and bi-sexual—were allowed to form erotic connections with consenting adults, who can doubt that countless children would have been spared outrageous torture at the hands of these sick, distorted men? Gay, conservative, Catholic author Andrew Sullivan has written that "the suppression of these core emotions and the denial of their resolution in love always always leads to personal distortion and cumpulsion and loss of perspective." Of course, it's not just a question of repressing homosexuality, but of all sexuality. And religions aren't the only institutions to champion such abuse of spirit and body; medical doctors have participated in some of these shameful crimes against humanity."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/se ... repression

Men did NOT evolve to be monogamous for life, especially men with a "thrill-seeking" gene http://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientists ... d=12322891

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/se ... ale-libido

Ending the war on porn, masturbation, adultery, and sex will likely reduce rape. Studies already confirm porn does reduce rape. Utah's new porn regulations will likely do more harm than good.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/al ... -revisited

No, I am not kidding.
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The last reference from Psychology Today seemed to make sense. It explained the difference between predictive and retrospective studies, and how and why different studies get different results.
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deacon blues wrote:The last reference from Psychology Today seemed to make sense. It explained the difference between predictive and retrospective studies, and how and why different studies get different results.


Exactly
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I have a question wrote:So sit back and watch nothing change, along will come more preventable incidents of this nature.


A way to reduce rape (based on the evidence) is for the church and government to end the war on sex.

According to a study, "We exploit the fact that a Rhode Island District Court judge unexpectedly decriminalized indoor prostitution in 2003 to provide the first causal estimates of the impact of decriminalization on the composition of the sex market, rape offenses, and sexually transmitted infection outcomes. Not surprisingly, we find that decriminalization increased the size of the indoor market. However, we also find that decriminalization caused both forcible rape offenses and gonorrhea incidence to decline for the overall population. Our synthetic control model finds 824 fewer reported rape offenses (31 percent decrease) and 1,035 fewer cases of female gonorrhea (39 percent decrease) from 2004 to 2009."

According to a report, "A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%."

Psychologist David Ludden writes, "All marriages need to be open to some extent. This could simply mean allowing your partner to have friends who aren’t also your friends. But it might go farther than that, giving each other the freedom to explore sexual and emotional needs with other partners. Just so long as you remember who you’re coming home to at the end of the affair."
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I thought everyone here was interested in the solutions to fight (and reduce) sex abuse. Well, it is obvious that no one cares about my ideas, not even here on the Internet.

But the evidence speaks for itself

"When Rhode Island accidentally legalized prostitution, rape decreased sharply"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... ee4ae78505

"All the prospective trials show that as porn became more easily available, rates of sexual assault declined."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/al ... -revisited"

"An Inconvenient Truth: Sexual Monogamy Kills Male Libido"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/se ... ale-libido

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Dawn-Stray-M ... 1491512407

I honestly haven't seen any evidence that ending one on one interviews will do anything to reduce sex abuse rates.
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