Oh, they modified the warning. At first, it just said, "Please watch the personal insults. ~Mods"
And, you left out some of it...
Yeah, it's kind of funny how certain men think we're victims of sexism and they react by trying to protect us from it, as if we are helpless dingbats who need protection! Who are the real sexists?
I don't feel the need to protect anyone from the church's obvious sexism. But I grieve when my daughter asks me why Heavenly Father likes boys more than He likes girls.
William Schryver wrote:
Transcript of the conversation:
John W: (speaking to daughter Sunday morning) I don’t believe in the Church anymore, but I’ll still come to hear your talk today.
John’s Daughter: I’m glad you’re going to be there Dad. But why don’t you believe in the church anymore?
John W: Well, there are lots of reasons, honey. One thing that bothers me is that the church doesn’t think girls are as important as boys.
John’s Daugther: It doesn’t?
John W: Nope. They think that men are better than women; that women are on earth only to serve men, just like slaves.
John’s Daughter: Wow! I never knew that. They never taught us that in primary or Sunday school. Is that something you learn in the temple?
John W: That’s right, dear. They trick you into going to the temple and promising to never tell what you learn there, and then they make you promise to be a slave to your husband forever. And they tell you that if you break your promise that you will never go to heaven.
John’s Daughter: Why would heavenly Father want me to be a slave?
John W: The only reason I can come up with is that He likes boys more than He likes girls.
John’s Daughter: Why does heavenly Father like boys more than He likes girls?
John W: Why don’t you ask the bishop? Bishops know everything. (Smiles wickedly as he turns away . . . )
John W wrote:
Here's the real conversation (sorry, Will, you're way off):
Daughter: Dad, why does Heavenly Father like boys more than girls?
John: Why would you say that? Heavenly Father loves all His children.
Daughter: Yeah, but He loves boys more than girls.
John: Why do you think that?
Daughter: Boys can be anything they want to be, but girls can't.
John: You can be whatever you want to be.
Daughter: No I can't. I can't ever be a bishop or a leader in the church.
John's wife: Well, boys can't be mothers.
That's as close to how she said it as I can remember. It was about a year ago.
P.S. I think Will was trying to be funny. At least I hope he was.
William Schryver wrote:
I consider the above reconstruction of this alleged conversation to be incredibly implausible. If indeed it did take place, it was most certainly preceded by some other indoctrination events that put those ideas and phrases into her head.
But you're certainly free to indoctrinate your children in whatever fashion you choose, although I suspect the future will find you doing so within the context of weekend visits.
As far as the love of God being somehow linked to the respective roles of men and women in the church, there is absolutely nothing in the teachings or tradition of the church that would lead to that conclusion. It is purely the construct of modern feminist propaganda, perpetuated and used to advantage by those individuals who seize upon these ideas as a justification for their alienation from the church.
As far as I'm concerned, it would be more logical for men to believe God loves them less for making them be bishops. I'd personally prefer the rigors of childbirth over the rigors of being a bishop any day!
Looks like I took a pretty big ding by calling Juliann out...oops...