Another Ponzi scam in Utah by LDS scammer.

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Another Ponzi scam in Utah by LDS scammer.

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SALT LAKE CITY — A Draper man who told investors he was a faithful member of the LDS Church has admitted to securities fraud in a plea deal with federal prosecutors.

A federal grand jury last December indicted Andrew D. Kelley, 41, on seven counts of securities fraud and four counts each of wire fraud and money laundering in connection with a $3 million investment scheme through his company, Blackbird Capital Partners.

In exchange for Kelley pleading guilty to one count of securities fraud, the U.S. Attorney's Office dropped the 14 other charges against him. Kelley faces up to 20 years in prison and a $5 million fine. Prosecutors agreed to recommend a sentence on the low end of the federal sentencing guideline range. He is scheduled to be sentenced in September.

Kelley admitted that in an effort to get investments and lull investors into a false sense of security, he falsely represented high returns in Blackbird's day-trading business when in fact he lost millions of dollars and diverted money for personal gain, according to court documents.

Kelley told investors that he developed an algorithmic software program for Blackbird to invest its own funds to profit the company and investors. Kelley claimed he spent millions of dollars and thousands of hours developing the program that made up to 300 percent returns, court documents say.

Kelley also told investors he was a family man and a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, according to court documents.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43926248&nid=14 ... ties-fraud

Believing Mormons seem to be one of the most gullible groups around.
Is that because Mormonism makes people gullible, or is Mormonism predominantly made up of gullible people?
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Re: Another Ponzi scam in Utah by LDS scammer.

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I have a question wrote:
SALT LAKE CITY — A Draper man who told investors he was a faithful member of the LDS Church has admitted to securities fraud in a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
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Kelley also told investors he was a family man and a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, according to court documents.

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Believing Mormons seem to be one of the most gullible groups around.
Is that because Mormonism makes people gullible, or is Mormonism predominantly made up of gullible people?

Nope. Mormons are always conscious that they will need to answer to a higher power. They therefore always act morally. Atheists, however, pretend to be Mormons precisely because they know this will make people trust them.

Of course, the only way that you can tell whether someone who looks like a Mormon is a secret atheist is when they do something bad like this. Then it becomes clear that they are not True Mormons. (And not True Scotsmen either, for that matter ...)
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: Another Ponzi scam in Utah by LDS scammer.

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Often, the LDS chapel is nothing more than a corral for wolves likes this.

Easy prey.
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Religious gullibility plus prosperity gospel leads to ponzi victim potential.
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Re: Another Ponzi scam in Utah by LDS scammer.

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Apologists might say that Mormons fall for this more often than others because since they are so good and honest, at times they can be naïve.

I think the real issue is different. Wisdom comes through a healthy degree of skepticism, questioning, reason, and logic. Faith is the exact opposite of skepticism and questioning.

When you are taught that the most important decisions in life should be made by interpreting your feelings and desires as promptings of the Holy Ghost, and you are taught that these "revelations" trump reason and logic--the tools of the devil--you are setting yourself up to make some bad decisions.

And Mormons falling victim to scams like this is way more common than you would think. In cold dollars and cents, what is probably worse than losing your entire life savings to a scam like this is losing 10% of your lifetime income.
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