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 Post subject: Re: Which LDS distortions have you noticed?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:14 pm 
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But, behold, verily, verily, I say unto thee [Oliver Cowdery], no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses.


I forgot to mention something else about this. "for he receiveth them even as Moses" points to why ONLY True Messengers have access to KNOWING the mysteries of "God". As a result, they no longer function inside of mortality based upon faith. Unless someone has had their veil pierced (which is an actual, physical, event which takes place because someone from outside of mortality enters this realm and touches them), then they are NOT a True Messenger. If someone thinks that they are a prophet who has not had their brain adjusted, then they are merely deceiving them self...and they are making it all up inside of their own minds. At the instant a True Messenger's brain gets adjusted (the programing inside of their brain which previously prevented them from being aware of the connection between their mortal self and their second estate self gets turned off), they KNOW the Real Truth about who they are, who we are, and what is really going on here.

Christ did not need to have His brain adjusted. He was born into mortality fully aware of His connection to His second estate self. He KNEW exactly who He was and what His role was, who we are, and the real truth about what is going on here during His entire journey inside of mortality. I can't even begin to comprehend what it must have been like to have this knowledge your entire life while not being able to speak or do anything that would interfere with the free will desires of others to believe and/or do whatever they wanted to believe and/or do.

Nightlion's veil has been pierced so that he can see pictographs from Elohim and Jehovah on the face of Mount Olympus in the Wasatch Mountains east of Salt Lake City.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:14 pm 
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The most common thinking distortion I hear in church is polarized (bi-polar) thinking, aka “either-or” thinking.

Eg: “The church is either true or not.”
“You are either on the Lord’s side or not.”

Nobody’s 100% perfect nor 100% evil.


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... nor 100% evil.

Not even Ashkenazi Jews?

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Truth isn't even 100% true.......Joseph himself said what is true in one instance and time can be different in another..... changing perspective also changes truth I would propose....

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A sense of smug superiority that they have special wisdom that separates them from the herd. Some never recover from it.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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... nor 100% evil.

Not even Ashkenazi Jews?

- Doc

Doc, maybe you become that by paying attention and remembering what you learn. Good job!

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A sense of smug superiority that they have special wisdom that separates them from the herd. Some never recover from it.

Having been bullied, sexually and physically abused and ran away as a teen - I was never really part of any herd. But you’re right - sometimes because of that I sometimes see that as superior.


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Philo Sofee wrote:
Truth isn't even 100% true.......Joseph himself said what is true in one instance and time can be different in another..... changing perspective also changes truth I would propose....

Yeah, good point. In that sense truth depends on perspective and focus.

How do you figure out which perspective to focus on?


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Truth isn't even 100% true.......Joseph himself said what is true in one instance and time can be different in another..... changing perspective also changes truth I would propose....

Yeah, good point. In that sense truth depends on perspective and focus.

How do you figure out which perspective to focus on?


The one pointing toward the whole.....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:26 pm 
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Philo Sofee wrote:
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Yeah, good point. In that sense truth depends on perspective and focus.

How do you figure out which perspective to focus on?


The one pointing toward the whole.....

What do you mean? Incorporate a bit of all you can imagine?

A psychologist suggested that without the emotional sensing part of the brain, we couldn’t do much. Emotion seems to be the means which selects which, out of the many possibles perspectives, to focus on. But for most, it’s chosen subconsciously and reactively. How do you think it’s best to choose proactively and intentionally?


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A sense of smug superiority that they have special wisdom that separates them from the herd. Some never recover from it.

Having been bullied, sexually and physically abused and ran away as a teen - I was never really part of any herd. But you’re right - sometimes because of that I sometimes see that as superior.


I’m truly sorry that happened to you. No child deserves that kind of treatment.

So why do you engage in conduct that encourages LBGT youth to be subjected to exactly the same treatment?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
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Having been bullied, sexually and physically abused and ran away as a teen - I was never really part of any herd. But you’re right - sometimes because of that I sometimes see that as superior.


I’m truly sorry that happened to you. No child deserves that kind of treatment.

So why do you engage in conduct that encourages LBGT youth to be subjected to exactly the same treatment?

Thank you. I agree that nobody deserves that, but life isn’t fair - in some ways to one’s advantage and sometimes to one’s disadvantage.

ALL teenagers struggle, not just those who have been sexually abused and developed deviated sexual preferences. TRUTH is what these teenagers need - not lies. Truth is what will help them not be suicidal. Lies - like pretending eg: a man is a woman - is cruel and likely contributes to depression, anxiety and suicide.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:22 pm 
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Mistaking the word boring for the word "click-bait".

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ALL teenagers struggle, not just those who have been sexually abused and developed deviated sexual preferences. TRUTH is what these teenagers need - not lies. Truth is what will help them not be suicidal. Lies - like pretending eg: a man is a woman - is cruel and likely contributes to depression, anxiety and suicide.

No, the type of cruelty you dish out is what likely contributes to depression, anxiety, and suicide. When you tell teenagers, as you do, that they are sexual deviants or that they are mentally ill because they are attracted to the same sex or identify with the opposite gender, you inflict cruel, damaging mental abuse on them. Why you would choose to do that after being cruelty abused yourself is baffling to me. Why would you choose to do that?

You’ve spread the kind of false and misleading propaganda that is used to justify assaulting, jailing, and even killing gay folk. If you want truth, here’s truth for you: when people are not forced by society to fit into rigidly defined gender roles based solely on their genetilia, how they relate to sex and gender is pretty damn fluid. And, unless their heads are filled with anti-gay propaganda from busybodies like you, the kids who do fit into the rigid stereotypes are pretty darn supportive of kids that don’t. You’re not spreading truth — you’re spreading hate based on your arrogant assumption that you know what’s best.

Maybe I don’t understand the effects of abuse. Maybe this is what they refer to as the cycle of abuse. I just don’t get why someone who suffered abuse at the hand of a human would turn around and inflict abuse on other humans.

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Mistaking the word boring for the word "click-bait".

You really need to avoid bringing your SeN board stuff over here. :confused:

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Mistaking the word boring for the word "click-bait".

You really need to avoid bringing your SeN board stuff over here. :confused:

Sewer is as sewer does, that's what momma always says.

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