Questions re Peterson, "Cloud Illusions and the Perfect Day"

[_The Erotic Apologist]

color coded...

It’s also unimaginably vast. Its diameter, for instance, is approximately 864,938 miles (1.392 million kilometers). By contrast, Earth’s diameter is 7,917.5 miles (12,742 kilometers). You could line 109 Earths up across the face of the Sun. And the Sun’s circumference is about 2,713,406 miles (4,366,813 km). Again, that’s approximately 109 times the circumference of the Earth.

The mass of the Sun is 1.989 x 1030 [sic] kilograms, about 333,000 times the mass of the Earth. The total volume of the Sun is 1.4 x 1027 [sic] cubic meters. Thus, roughly 1.3 million Earths could fit inside it. The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook Fundamental Planetary Sciences [sic], to refer to the solar system as merely “the sun plus some debris.”

The mean radius of the sun is 432,450 miles (696,000 kilometers), which makes its diameter about 864,938 miles (1.392 million km). You could line up 109 Earths across the face of the sun. The sun's circumference is about 2,713,406 miles (4,366,813 km).

Mass and volume

The total volume of the sun is 1.4 x 10[^]27 cubic meters. About 1.3 million Earths could fit inside the sun. The mass of the sun is 1.989 x 10[^]30 kilograms, about 333,000 times the mass of the Earth. The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook "Planetary Sciences," to refer to the solar system as "the sun plus some debris."

Okay, I'll see your color-coded Peterson plagiarism and raise you a Thoman S. Monson citing a Holocaust revisionist author (David Irving) in general conference...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35888&hilit=irving&start=0

[_Tom]

DCP responds:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterso ... today.html

The data that I cited are widely available, and not unique or proprietary to Tim Sharp’s article, which was simply a convenient source that came up first in a Google search. Nor is his particular language especially ususual.

I assume Dr. Peterson agrees that he should credit Sharp for the particular language in this sentence:

"The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook Fundamental Planetary Sciences [sic], to refer to the solar system as merely 'the sun plus some debris.'"

Sharp: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook 'Planetary Sciences,' to refer to the solar system as 'the sun plus some debris.'"

[_Chap]

Oh, you're an insufferably glib character, aren't you?

Congratulations on stalking someone to try to catch him making a mistake.

You do know he has an email address, right? If this were a sincere question, why would you not just send him a private note?

No need to email Daniel Peterson to draw his attention to any reference to him on this board. He is ever present. Sometimes (you know what?) he even replies. Or if he doesn't, someone who is a stylistic clone of him replies instead. Same difference.

And, as other posters have pointed out, this was not a 'mistake'.

It was a truly lazy and sloppy 'cut and paste' job that enabled him to get credited for 'writing' something that in very large degree had already been written by somebody else, whose authorship he did not acknowledge. Where I come from, that's rude.

[_I have a question]

plagiarism
ˈpleɪdʒərɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: plagiarism; plural noun: plagiarisms
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
"there were accusations of plagiarism"
synonyms: copying, infringement of copyright, piracy, theft, stealing, poaching, appropriation; informalcribbing
"there were accusations of plagiarism"

Credit to Google for this definition.

[_Tator]

You know what I love? We could have learned all this from the Book of Mormon or the D&C if we had just read it with the Spirit. God wants us to have real knowledge, that's why he shares it with us through his prophets...... and the scriptures are the best place to get the fullest, most correct knowledge.

Philo, Philo, Philo there are over 10 thousand comedians out of work and here you go trying to be funny again.

[Guest]

Peterson comments:

The irritating thing here, to me, is that there's nothing particularly memorable or significant about Tim Sharp's specific phrasing in this passage. I just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of places, online and elsewhere. His article simply came up first when I Googled something like "How large is the Sun?"

If, as he claims, Peterson "just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of places, online and elsewhere," why did he copy the particular phrasing and reference in Sharp's sentence?

Sharp: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook 'Planetary Sciences,' to refer to the solar system as 'the sun plus some debris.'"

Peterson: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook Fundamental Planetary Sciences [sic], to refer to the solar system as merely 'the sun plus some debris.'"

[_malkie]

Peterson comments:

The irritating thing here, to me, is that there's nothing particularly memorable or significant about Tim Sharp's specific phrasing in this passage. I just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of places, online and elsewhere. His article simply came up first when I Googled something like "How large is the Sun?"

If, as he claims, Peterson "just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of place, online and elsewhere," why did he copy the particular phrasing and reference in Sharp's sentence?

Sharp: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook 'Planetary Sciences,' to refer to the solar system as 'the sun plus some debris.'"

Peterson: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook Fundamental Planetary Sciences [sic], to refer to the solar system as merely 'the sun plus some debris.'"

There's a lesson to be learned from this:
Writers who do not want to be plagiarized should take pains to ensure that SEO does not bring their writings to the top of the search page.

[_kairos]

Wait a minute! Wait a minute! I want the dimensions of Kolub?

Danny I bet you can't google and get that information.

[_palerobber]

Peterson comments:

The irritating thing here, to me, is that there's nothing particularly memorable or significant about Tim Sharp's specific phrasing in this passage. I just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of places, online and elsewhere. His article simply came up first when I Googled something like "How large is the Sun?"

If, as he claims, Peterson "just wanted the numbers, which are available at literally hundreds of place, online and elsewhere," why did he copy the particular phrasing and reference in Sharp's sentence?

Sharp: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook 'Planetary Sciences,' to refer to the solar system as 'the sun plus some debris.'"

Peterson: "The sun contains 99.8 percent of the mass of the entire solar system, leading astronomers Imke de Pater and Jack J. Lissauer, authors of the textbook Fundamental Planetary Sciences [sic], to refer to the solar system as merely 'the sun plus some debris.'"

i think you're being generous to focus mainly on this one sentence. it's clear that he cut and pasted an entire section of text from Sharp and then lightly edited it.

inexcusable. but just imagine how much more he might steal from other writers were it not for the moral grounding provided by his faith.

[_palerobber]

This is becoming a common occurrence with DCP.

is it? when has he done this before?

in his blog, DesNews column, or in his scholarly work?