When Mormons Weren't White

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When Mormons Weren't White

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/0 ... ent-white/

The whole article is very interesting, but here is some flavor.

Much has been written about the unprecedented wave of Islamophobia currently sweeping the United States, with Muslim Americans are falling victim to an ever-increasing number of threats, assaults, and attacks on their houses of worship. The groundswell of hatred has appalled and confused many on the Left, with some wondering how a nation such as the United States — which enshrines religious freedom for citizens in the First Amendment to its Constitution — could ever create an environment that openly oppresses a single faith group.


When former Massachusetts governor and devout Mormon Mitt Romney announced his campaign for president in 2012, political pundits were quick to note his most visibly apparent feature: his blinding whiteness. Tumblr blogs showcased the candidate’s popularity with white people, songs declared him “the whitest white man in the USA,” and cultural commentator Lee Siegel, writing for the New York Times, crowned Romney as the “whitest white man to run for president in recent memory.” In almost every case, his faith was listed as a chief indicator of his extreme Caucasian-ness.

“…there is no stronger bastion of pre-civil-rights-America whiteness than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Siegel wrote. “Yes, since 1978 the church has allowed blacks to become priests. But Mormonism is still imagined by its adherents as a religion founded by whites, for whites, rooted in a millenarian vision of an America destined to fulfill a white God's plans for earth.”


“Outsiders suggested that Mormons were physically different and racially more similar to marginalized groups than they were to white people,” Reeve writes. “Mormons were conflated with nearly every other ‘problem’ group in the nineteenth century — blacks, Indians, immigrants, and Chinese — a way to color them less white by association.”


One of the more famous examples was a report submitted to the U.S. Senate in the 1860s by military doctor Roberts Bartholow after he visited Utah, where a community of Mormons was in active conflict with the federal government. In his report, Bartholow cited physical traits of Mormons he met such as “striking uniformity in facial expression” — supposedly (and inexplicably) the byproduct of plural marriage — as evidence that their population constituted a new, inferior race.

“[Mormons wear] an expression of countenance and a style of feature, which may be styled the Mormon expression and style; an expression compounded of sensuality, cunning, suspicion, and smirking self-conceit,” his report read. “The yellow, sunken, cadaverous visage; the greenish-colored eyes; the thick, protuberant lips; the low forehead; the light, yellowish hair; and the lank, angular person, constitute an appearance so characteristic of the new race, the production of polygamy, as to distinguish them at a glance.”
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Re: When Mormons Weren't White

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I thought this was about the Book of Mormon.

After all, they were the first Mormons lolol
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Thanks for linking to this, just me. Well worth the read. Although the idea of a new Mormon race might have been a bit premature in the second half of the 19th Century.
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Re: When Mormons Weren't White

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just me wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/02/12/3748945/when-mormons-werent-white/

The whole article is very interesting, but here is some flavor.

Much has been written about the unprecedented wave of Islamophobia currently sweeping the United States, with Muslim Americans are falling victim to an ever-increasing number of threats, assaults, and attacks on their houses of worship. The groundswell of hatred has appalled and confused many on the Left, with some wondering how a nation such as the United States — which enshrines religious freedom for citizens in the First Amendment to its Constitution — could ever create an environment that openly oppresses a single faith group.


When former Massachusetts governor and devout Mormon Mitt Romney announced his campaign for president in 2012, political pundits were quick to note his most visibly apparent feature: his blinding whiteness. Tumblr blogs showcased the candidate’s popularity with white people, songs declared him “the whitest white man in the USA,” and cultural commentator Lee Siegel, writing for the New York Times, crowned Romney as the “whitest white man to run for president in recent memory.” In almost every case, his faith was listed as a chief indicator of his extreme Caucasian-ness.

“…there is no stronger bastion of pre-civil-rights-America whiteness than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Siegel wrote. “Yes, since 1978 the church has allowed blacks to become priests. But Mormonism is still imagined by its adherents as a religion founded by whites, for whites, rooted in a millenarian vision of an America destined to fulfill a white God's plans for earth.”


“Outsiders suggested that Mormons were physically different and racially more similar to marginalized groups than they were to white people,” Reeve writes. “Mormons were conflated with nearly every other ‘problem’ group in the nineteenth century — blacks, Indians, immigrants, and Chinese — a way to color them less white by association.”


One of the more famous examples was a report submitted to the U.S. Senate in the 1860s by military doctor Roberts Bartholow after he visited Utah, where a community of Mormons was in active conflict with the federal government. In his report, Bartholow cited physical traits of Mormons he met such as “striking uniformity in facial expression” — supposedly (and inexplicably) the byproduct of plural marriage — as evidence that their population constituted a new, inferior race.

“[Mormons wear] an expression of countenance and a style of feature, which may be styled the Mormon expression and style; an expression compounded of sensuality, cunning, suspicion, and smirking self-conceit,” his report read. “The yellow, sunken, cadaverous visage; the greenish-colored eyes; the thick, protuberant lips; the low forehead; the light, yellowish hair; and the lank, angular person, constitute an appearance so characteristic of the new race, the production of polygamy, as to distinguish them at a glance.”


1. Uh, first because the percentage of them that are fanatical causing havoc the world over is equivalent to the population of the United States, and we simply don't want that here, not to mention Sharia Law which some 60% of current Muslims in the U.S. would want if they could. So we have enough, not needing more of that and more fanatical Islam. Second, we don't want more of our resources that don't even do really enough for America's poor, and we don't even have due to the National Debt and the Deficit, that America's poor simply needs to come first. It's like being on a ship... If you only have so much food to just barely survive, and you add the crew of another ship, and then try to spread the food around more, you end up killing the majority of people instead of saving them.

2. It's so funny how racist liberals are and they don't even realize how racist they are. Dwelling on Romney's "witness" is racist.

3. First the Priesthood ban was not in relation to "blacks", it was in relation to those of African Lineage, no matter what color they were.
Blacks of all kinds of colors and in-between were in fact given the Priesthood. India, Asia, Indians, Islands, parts/persons of Central/South America etc.
Priesthood was restricted on linage, no different than only the Levite Lineage could have the Priesthood in Moses time and all other Lineages were banned.

Second, not a single Mormon has ever thought the Church was founded by whites, for whites, and awaiting a white God (per-se). White in native times was like Arabs or what most think of with Native Americans. Further, it is the spirit that creates "whiteness" not skin color. But, that one's more nuanced, not really an issue or criticism. The "for whites" claim however is truly offensive and bigoted and false.

4. LOL, so liberals back then were racist and didn't like religious freedoms.....? No surprise, not much different from today.
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Re: When Mormons Weren't White

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Here is a widely accepted definition of race.
The term race refers to groups of people who have differences and similarities in biological traits deemed by society to be socially significant, meaning that people treat other people differently because of them.

Many would say that, by this definition, Mormons (especially those residing in the Moridor) could pretty much qualify as a race.

In evolution, speciation is the result of specific genetic and social changes that occur in a group while isolated for long periods of time (multiple generations) from the main population. Physical and social isolation is exactly what happened with Mormons in the 19th century. Today the isolation (or separation at least) continues in many ways de facto.

While waiting for a Delta flight from Atlanta to SLC several years ago, I bet a colleague who had been travelling with me that I could pick out the Mormons from among the passengers waiting in the gate area, (several of whom had come in on our flight from London). He took the bet and I began to (discretely) approach my victims and simply ask if they were LDS. By the time I got up to half a dozen or so, with 100% accuracy, he stopped me out of embarrassment and agreed that I had won the bet.

Mormons are different. Mormons and their leaders are fond of saying so and they should own it - for better or worse.
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“[Mormons wear] an expression of countenance and a style of feature, which may be styled the Mormon expression and style; an expression compounded of sensuality, cunning, suspicion, and smirking self-conceit,” his report read. “The yellow, sunken, cadaverous visage; the greenish-colored eyes; the thick, protuberant lips; the low forehead; the light, yellowish hair; and the lank, angular person, constitute an appearance so characteristic of the new race, the production of polygamy, as to distinguish them at a glance.”


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