Yes, Bob, I too join the chorus of applause for your MDD post to Will Schryver. Well done.

You were courageous and principled, and I was impressed. Most of all, speaking as a woman, I was grateful. Very.

I did, and two things became crystal clear:

1) Schryver is a misogynist.
2) You are Schryver.

I appreciate your participation on the thread. Sorry to see you go.

Bob, we have hardly ever agreed on anything, but it's good to see you have the courage of your convictions. Good job.

By the way, I financially supported your son in the primary and will continue to support him in the general election.

What you see here is an important stage in the development of LDS apologetics. A new standard for doing apologetics within the Church structure is emerging, and the old amateur approach, which was born to counter ad hoc anti-Mormon polemics from Christian ministries, is being shifted from the center. Both will continue to exist, but my hope is that the shift will encourage a wider range of both established and aspiring LDS academics to submit work to the MI. The "classic-FARMS" polemics will continue as a cottage industry to satisfy those to whom such appeals. MDDB came out of that milieu, and it will remain in that milieu. No loss.

IMO, it does mean that they won't take professionalism and decorum seriously. They have always seen this as a "war," hence Schryver's remarks about "being on the front lines." Because they see things this way, things like courtesy and decency get set on the back burner: it's all about attaining victory--all about smiting the Adversary.

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On a sidenote, based on some of the things Will has said, it seems to me that his article, along with Greg Smith's Dehlin "hit piece, I assume, will never see the light of day. Per Will's comments, it sounds as if leaders high up in the Church are suppressing these articles.

You don't like me, Yahoo Bot, and I don't like you.


But I'm starting too . . .


Nice work.

+1

Is Schryver just not very bright? I cannot think of any other explanation. He cannot even come close to disguising himself when he comes on here pretending to be someone else.

Also, he cannot stop posting and re-posting and then posting again about his brilliant unpublished and rejected paper. How embarrassing for him.
Add to this how he continually draws attention to his blatant misogynistic behavior and writings (even posting links to it in his most recent writings).

Maybe he just thrives on attention....positive or negative....and seeing the number of threads dedicated to discussing him on here, he is certainly achieving that.

We have a winner.

I'm thread banned. What crap.

Something else I didn't see the first time through:



Did anyone try to suppress his FAIR conference presentation? It seemed more that after it came out it provoked a lot of (deserved) ridicule but I don't see any evidence that someone tried to suppress it.

Probably only in the same way that Brian Hauglid tried to "suppress" him (i.e., by telling him that his theories were bogus).

That's for sure. Will was definitely right about one thing: nothing generates traffic on this site like a Will Schryver thread. He's the Kim Kardashian of mopologetics. You know its all essentially garbage and a waste of time, but yet you still can't stop yourself from looking.

Looks like Runto has weighed in on the controversy.

http://runtu.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/t ... t-william/

Impossible WS cannot read anything I write. I started a thread stating just that back in the day. But I still think Bradford IS Scratch's informant.

Love this.

Keeping Bob in context:

I've been called much worse. Right Ludd?

Never thought Bob was, just that he retorted to Will in a most appropriate, non-herd-mentality way.

There's no herd mentality here - we all know that, don't we?