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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:41 am 
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The bonobo is popularly known for its high levels of sexual behavior. Sex functions in conflict appeasement, affection, social status, excitement, and stress reduction. It occurs in virtually all partner combinations and in a variety of positions.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:35 am 
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Like thou shalt not kill?

Of course not. And that is telling about law is it not? It is more by virtue of the commandment itself that sin exists than the mere act alone. God commands and we must obey or suffer. And the giving of greater commandments allows for greater blessings and or punishments. Like being raised up in the gospel covenant to a higher state of existence by virtue of the greater commandments you must keep. So like commandments provide a means to achieve higher states of existence.

I would expect that God does give animals their instinct. I would expect that their spirit exists independently with a set knowledge given of God in the beginning according to their sphere of existence. I am thinking that a certain level of animal spirit might make alive more than one sort of animal. Like an insect median level of independent existence, a microbial, a mamalian level of intelligence, and what not.

There could be some serious thought given to animal spirituality. I presently doubt all animals are ever saved as it were. Some can be according to the will of the Father and it would be something to find out the destiny of animal spirits like do they reincarnate or are we going to run out of species by over-breading them. Like will cows suddenly stop reproducing because there are no more cow spirits to come here? Famine because of our gluttony? Well, have it your way....................? We deserve a break today..............? Finger lickin' good...............what? No more chickens! How can there be no more chickens?

Is that why the dinosaurs suddenly stopped? Is that a control God uses for his purposes?
God does set bounds and limitations on habitations. He said so.


Acts 17: 26
26 And hath made of bone blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;


If for us certainly we see it for animals too. Species management would be a huge concern of God's. But every creation only enjoys its felicity according to what measure of command that they do receive. And it is not inglorious. Looking into the eyes of our friends is humbling to realize the inescapable innocence we see.

If man trains an animal to kill. The sin is man's and not the animal's if sin happens.

Still there are these ponderables:

Lev. 20: 16
16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Lev. 26: 6
6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:11 am 
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I would expect that God does give animals their instinct.


So perhaps God gives women who like women their instinct too...

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Are you a monkey (or it's uncle)?

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Are you a monkey (or it's uncle)?


According to Evolutionary principles we both are both!

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So perhaps God gives women who like women their instinct too...
IMHO, in Mormon culture, the homophobia against males has a function: to weed out the beta males, so that there would be more females available for the alpha males.

Homophobia against females also has a function: revenge against females who choose to not marry. Females with lesbian trends who supported polygamy were not stigmatized.

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When I was a kid, we had 2 cats. They were brother and sister. Once I caught the male cat performing incest on his sister. I rescued her, but not before she was damaged goods. This incident caused her to become promiscuous, because shortly after that she became pregnant. I assumed she got pregnant from the nice cat next door, but when the kittens were born, one of them was part siamese, one had fluffy black and white fur, and the others had solid white short hair. She was sleeping with the whole neighborhood.

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According to Evolutionary principles we both are both!


No, but we do have a common ancestor. The answer to the question, no, answers the OP question; it's irrelevant.

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Bcspace, you believe in human evolution? Wow. Didn't see that one coming.


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Bcspace, you believe in human evolution? Wow. Didn't see that one coming.


Not only that, he does not believe in a Global flood.

Truly 5% apostate.

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Bcspace, you believe in human evolution? Wow. Didn't see that one coming.


No, he doesn't. He believes that his misunderstanding of evolution is compatible with his ignoring the plain meaning of what the LDS Church teaches: that there was no death for any form of life on this planet before the Fall of Adam and Eve circa 4,000 B.C.E. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15412&start=84

Bcspace ludicrously tries to rely on the Church not having an official position as to the exact mechanism by which human beings were created as allowing for evolution to be compatible with LDS doctrine. But the two are not even remotely compatible, because the Church makes assertions of fact that preclude the possibility of evolution: no organism reproduced or died before Adam and Eve left the Garden of Eden; Adam and Eve left the Garden 6,000 years ago; the entire planet was covered with water at the time of Noah (which bcspace arbitrarily rejects), etc. In its official curricula, the Church explicitly recognizes that evolution is incompatible with the Church's teachings.

Old Testament Student Manual, Genesis--2 Samuel, "Genesis 1-2---The Creation" Points to Ponder (2-18)

“Of course, I think those people who hold to the view that man has come up through all these ages from the scum of the sea through billions of years do not believe in Adam. Honestly I do not know how they can, and I am going to show you that they do not. There are some who attempt to do it but they are inconsistent—absolutely inconsistent, because that doctrine is so incompatible, so utterly out of harmony, with the revelations of the Lord that a man just cannot believe in both.

“. . . I say most emphatically, you cannot believe in this theory of the origin of man, and at the same time accept the plan of salvation as set forth by the Lord our God. You must choose the one and reject the other, for they are in direct conflict and there is a gulf separating them which is so great that it cannot be bridged, no matter how much one may try to do so. . . .

“. . . Then Adam, and by that I mean the first man, was not capable of sin. He could not transgress, and by doing so bring death into the world; for, according to this theory, death had always been in the world. If, therefore, there was no fall, there was no need of an atonement, hence the coming into the world of the Son of God as the Savior of the world is a contradiction, a thing impossible. Are you prepared to believe such a thing as that?” (Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:141–42.)


If you search bcspace's posts about evolution, you will find his "theory" about how LDS doctrine can be reconciled with evolution. I totally swear I am not making up that this is bcspace's idea:

1. Directly contradicting the plain meaning of what the Church repeatedly and unequivocally says, bcspace posits that there was massive death all over the world to get the Earth up to the state where it was ready for human beings. Then the Garden of Eden became this island of immortality, while death and reproduction of animals (bcspace never seems to mention plants as being subject to evolution) was happening everywhere else.
2. God used evolution to get to the point where human bodies had developed. These human bodies had non-human spirits in them, however.
3. God inspired these non-human spirits in human bodies to mate in the Garden of Eden. When they did, God sent the human spirits of Adam and Eve into the human bodies that were the result of this mating. Thus, Adam and Eve were the first "human beings" because they had both human spirits and human bodies, even though through evolution there already were homo sapiens with non-human spirits living on the Earth before them.

Anyone with a passing familiarity LDS doctrine or biology (or who is not on medication that has substantial side effects) can readily see that there is no factual, theological, logical, or scientific reason to believe any of this. It is entirely ad hoc.

So Cylon, that's what bcspace means when he says he believes in evolution.


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Thanks for the summary, Darth J. Honestly, I think if someone going to try to reconcile human evolution with the church's teachings, something that convoluted is absolutely necessary. Although it seems easier to just go with the old standby, "God just made it look like evolution to test people." A whole lot simpler, and no more ludicrous.


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Thanks for the summary, Darth J. Honestly, I think if someone going to try to reconcile human evolution with the church's teachings, something that convoluted is absolutely necessary. Although it seems easier to just go with the old standby, "God just made it look like evolution to test people." A whole lot simpler, and no more ludicrous.


Nothing gives me greater pause in staggered awe than to see smart people believe evolution accounts for life on earth. I mean it is like 1 to the thousandth goggleplex times ten chance that any earth could succeeded at what is demonstrably false to begin with. I insist that anyone with serious math skills in probability could show that there has not been time enough still for evolution to rise up out of the pond scum. Neither is there room enough in all the universe to store all the overburden of dead stuff required to get through all the randomness. Certainly one earth would reach a diminishing point relatively soon. Don't let my rationality disturb your faith in fantasy boys. Please have your day as you will.

The academics only wanted to rid universities of God think and speak. Who knew that people would take it seriously. But there ya go. Unbelievable.

Just because evolution is required science speak for publishing all rationalizing does not make it so. It only means minds are being oppressed by a heavy hand. Sell outs!

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