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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:31 pm 
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...Let's all yawn at what the Review will now be.


Hopefully a journal which explores the contemporary
phenomenon of Mormonism, without exhibiting a focus
in defense of its doctrines or received history.

A publication that the librarians at Liberty University
and Bob Jones University can display on the shelves,
without fear of hostile criticism -- and one that naturally
ends up in the libraries and in-boxes of a good many
true institutions of higher learning.

Maybe even an academic/professional organ that a
guy like myself could contribute to -- knowing in advance
that any rejection notice received, was for my poor writing,
and not for some prejudged apostate heresy.

Just imagining...

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:34 pm 
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I have no idea whether this is real or what on earth is going on. It looks real, but I want to know whether it is real. You are deeply mistaken if you think I am experiencing some kind of Schadenfreude here. I don't know whether anything has happened or, if something has, why it has happened. I will say that I hope the Mormon Studies Review succeeds in its new direction, if that new direction excludes attacks on LDS Church members in good standing.

That you single me out for opprobrium here is odd. And, as for Hypatia's mob? You couldn't be more wrong.


There's lots you do with your skills. Instead you fight to make BYU a more bland place by silencing one of its voices with sharp elbows. It isn't enough that you attack the theories, you attack the professional reputations of those who advance them.

You're the power here, not Scratch. You're the one to understand academic freedom and free speech. Let's all yawn at what the Review will now be.


Wait a second. I am the ONLY one on the board who actually claims to have real power.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:38 pm 
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Look, Dr. Peterson is a wonderful guy. I don't always agree with what he writes or edits but there's a lot I don't agree with amongst good men who choose to be lightening rods.

This place has been terrible to him, and the assault is usually carried on by cowardly anonymous posters. People who should know better. Lawyers and academics and more.

I hope you're happy, Kish, sitting there in the safety of your ivory tower of Classicism and doing the anonymous thing that most of your treasured ancients would find despicable. I will wager that you were in Hypatia's mob.

Isn’t there an abusive cult somewhere in need of your legal expertise?

I'm not seeing any personal life here.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:47 pm 
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There's not any personal life here, either...

Cult Attorney Robert Crockett has a history of defending pedophiles and Keith Raniere and Allison Mack the royal cult couple of NXIVM.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:08 am 
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Oh my...

Bob must hate seeing that link posted here. Thanks so much for the link, I would have never seen it.


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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:23 am 
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...Let's all yawn at what the Review will now be.


Hopefully a journal which explores the contemporary
phenomenon of Mormonism, without exhibiting a focus
in defense of its doctrines or received history.

A publication that the librarians at Liberty University
and Bob Jones University can display on the shelves,
without fear of hostile criticism -- and one that naturally
ends up in the libraries and in-boxes of a good many
true institutions of higher learning.

Maybe even an academic/professional organ that a
guy like myself could contribute to -- knowing in advance
that any rejection notice received, was for my poor writing,
and not for some prejudged apostate heresy.

Just imagining...

UD


EXACTLY.

You are a good and wise man, Uncle Dale.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:26 am 
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Can you refrain from posting this off-topic stuff?

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:27 am 
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Please keep my personal life off of this board. I am totally unable to respond and explain what I do and whom I represent when it involves active matters. I don't expose your personal or professional life. Please leave mine alone.

If I make my personal life known here, then it is fair game.

I seem to remember your mentioning that you were headed off to argue a case before a high court (The Supreme Court?) within the last year or two. This and other disclosures that you have made would seem to indicate that you want everyone on the Board to know about your exploits IRL.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:45 am 
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There's lots you do with your skills.


There is a lot I do with my skills. The most important thing is being a good family man. Then, being a good friend. After that my scholarship and teaching. Yesterday morning at 4 am I emailed the manuscript of my first monograph to a major American academic press. I have several articles in draft and revision form. Many a lovely and intellectually stimulating hour has been spent discussing Mormon history with my dear friend Don Bradley, whose book on the lost 116 pages I am eager to see published. I blow off steam through experimental music.

Yes, I enjoy life.

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Instead you fight to make BYU a more bland place by silencing one of its voices with sharp elbows. It isn't enough that you attack the theories, you attack the professional reputations of those who advance them.


BYU will be much better off not attaching its good name and reputation to shameful smears like the Laura Compton hit piece. If you think that is the kind of activity that forwards a university's mission to serve either its students or the academic community at large, then your perspective is horribly skewed.

Any academic who willingly participates in mixing his professional life with such, and suffers negative consequences thereby, has hoisted himself on his own petard, and I personally lament it. I do not rejoice in his suffering.

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You're the power here, not Scratch. You're the one to understand academic freedom and free speech. Let's all yawn at what the Review will now be.


I don't regard calling Laura Compton a witch academic freedom. I call it professional suicide.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:10 am 
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Please keep my personal life off of this board. I am totally unable to respond and explain what I do and whom I represent when it involves active matters. I don't expose your personal or professional life. Please leave mine alone.

If I make my personal life known here, then it is fair game.



Oh, poor Bob. You don't get to claim the blessings of the anonymous kingdom - after all, you pride yourself on your very public persona, it's what makes Bob Crockett, well, Bob Crockett. And since we all know you are an attorney, there is no reason not to link to publicly available records of your publicly recorded exploits, right Bob?

[removed links to sort of respect Rev. Kish's admonition - besides, others beat me to it]

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:21 am 
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[removed links to sort of respect Rev. Kish's admonition - besides, others beat me to it]

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:51 am 
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Confirmation of Developments?

DCP Blog Entry Comment Thread was locked over on MDD after receiving a post that referred to DCP's "resignation" as editor of the Review.

No reason for the lock action was given.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:49 am 
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DCP Blog Entry Comment Thread was locked over on MDD after receiving a post that referred to DCP's "resignation" as editor of the Review.

No reason for the lock action was given.


Well that pretty much verifies it then doesn't it?

I mean unless this is just some huge prank by Dan, Will, and the folks running MAD, which I just don't see happening.

They've always been eager to point out how gullible we all are to believe Scratch's "non-existent" informant. Now they are banning any discussion of the topic?

Yeah, that pretty much verifies it for me. It will be set in stone once the next Review is published without Dan's name on it.

The next question should be how does this affect Schryver's so-called upcoming publication that he keeps yacking about. It is clear that the guy he was relying on all this time in getting it pushed through, was none other than Dan Peterson.

Can you imagine how Greg Smith and Will Schryver feel at this point?

If I was the one who wrote attack pieces and influenced Dan to become this die-hard warmongering extremist, which resulted in the Church removing him from his apologetic and church sponsored pulpit, then I'd fell really bad about.

But somehow I doubt they do.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:54 am 
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It will be set in stone once the next Review is published without Dan's name on it.


Once they hire a new editor, and he appears on the website with his job title, that will prove it.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:01 am 
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It is clear that the guy he was relying on all this time in getting it pushed through, was none other than Dan Peterson.


It is interesting to me that he always acted like he was out of the loop on Schryver.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:08 am 
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They've always been eager to point out how gullible we all are to believe Scratch's "non-existent" informant. Now they are banning any discussion of the topic?


I've ever been a strong Scratch supporter and still maintain that he is the most valuable poster on the board.

I think it's been clearly demonstrated that Dr. Scratch has a direct pipeline into the innards of the beast. Oh how DCP is going to be humbled through his humiliation. He might even become a true Christian after all this is over. Imagine a kinder and gentler DCP who is only out to make people feel better about themselves. Now that's the kind of DCP I'd like to see.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:13 am 
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Once they hire a new editor, and he appears on the website with his job title, that will prove it.


No Kish. That would only prove that there was a changing of the guard but it doesn't prove the letters Dr. Scratch posted are genuine. That will come in other ways.

You should have more faith in Dr. Scratch.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:38 am 
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I agree that locking the blog thread without denial or comment is a clear confirmation.

Wow.

I hope Scratch's informant isn't at risk in some way.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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I agree that locking the blog thread without denial or comment is a clear confirmation.

Wow.

I hope Scratch's informant isn't at risk in some way.


I bet the person who passed this along is only indirectly connected to the institute, probably as friend of a friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:47 am 
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I bet the person who passed this along is only indirectly connected to the institute, probably as friend of a friend.


How much are you willing to bet? I want my $100 back.

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No Kish. That would only prove that there was a changing of the guard but it doesn't prove the letters Dr. Scratch posted are genuine. That will come in other ways.

You should have more faith in Dr. Scratch.

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It would be proof of the most important substance of this. Whether the letter is genuine is another matter. My interest is in the end of attacks on members from BYU campus.

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