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 Post subject: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:34 pm 
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The following excerpt of Daniel's blog is dated June 15, 2012.

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There’s no reason for us to like diseases, financial setbacks, wars, betrayals by friends, interpersonal hostilities, misunderstandings, physical injuries, injustice, unmerited humiliations, and the like. It must needs be that offenses come, but woe unto him by whom those offenses come. They hurt. They’re painful. And their costs are, many times, very high and quite permanent. However, they do serve to school us, to train us, to smooth and polish us (as Joseph said of the persecutions that afflicted him throughout his life) as we, stone-like, roll down the hills of our lives.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:38 pm 
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Earlier, on June 14, the following statement:

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Finally, we arrived at The Scots Hotel, in Tiberias, on the Sea of Galilee. It’s a very quaint place that originally served as a hospital and residence for Church of Scotland missionaries here at the beginning of the twentieth century, and it’s still owned and operated by the Church of Scotland. I’ve never stayed in this hotel before, and, given its expense, probably never will again. But I like it a lot. With beautiful gardens overlooking the lake, it has a lot of character.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Perhaps. I think what's intriguing here is that no one has yet to come forward and denounce this as a false rumor. Doesn't Dan usually monitor this forum on a religious basis? He is usually quick to denounce these things when they're false, especially when they affect his profession and credibility. We know the folks at MAD lurk here regularly, including William Schryver who would probably know if this were true or false.

And yet the crickets are chirping.

None of the lurkers here have even tried to start a thread at MAD about it, which is unusual. They're obviously reading these posts. They always do.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:47 pm 
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The weegie board says, "he's doomed."

Cruficy him!

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:51 pm 
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The following excerpt of Daniel's blog is dated June 15, 2012.


Why, I wonder, did DCP move his blog over to the Patheos Web site? Very peculiar. And BTW: isn't Ben Spackman involved with the Mormon section of Patheos?

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Look, Dr. Peterson is a wonderful guy. I don't always agree with what he writes or edits but there's a lot I don't agree with amongst good men who choose to be lightening rods.

This place has been terrible to him, and the assault is usually carried on by cowardly anonymous posters. People who should know better. Lawyers and academics and more.

I hope you're happy, Kish, sitting there in the safety of your ivory tower of Classicism and doing the anonymous thing that most of your treasured ancients would find despicable. I will wager that you were in Hypatia's mob.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:05 pm 
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Look, Dr. Peterson is a wonderful guy. I don't always agree with what he writes or edits but there's a lot I don't agree with amongst good men who choose to be lightening rods.

This place has been terrible to him, and the assault is usually carried on by cowardly anonymous posters. People who should know better. Lawyers and academics and more.

I hope you're happy, Kish, sitting there in the safety of your ivory tower of Classicism and doing the anonymous thing that most of your treasured ancients would find despicable. I will wager that you were in Hypatia's mob.


I'm not anonymous and have been quite vocal in expressing my disaproval.

How about the great (learned) doctor come here and explain the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 right here on this GODDAMN forum instead of hiding behind John Gee? Hell, they are both cowards. BYU scholars are a joke!

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Look, Dr. Peterson is a wonderful guy. I don't always agree with what he writes or edits but there's a lot I don't agree with amongst good men who choose to be lightening rods.

This place has been terrible to him, and the assault is usually carried on by cowardly anonymous posters. People who should know better. Lawyers and academics and more.

I hope you're happy, Kish, sitting there in the safety of your ivory tower of Classicism and doing the anonymous thing that most of your treasured ancients would find despicable. I will wager that you were in Hypatia's mob.


Yahoo,

I have no idea whether this is real or what on earth is going on. It looks real, but I want to know whether it is real. You are deeply mistaken if you think I am experiencing some kind of Schadenfreude here. I don't know whether anything has happened or, if something has, why it has happened. I will say that I hope the Mormon Studies Review succeeds in its new direction, if that new direction excludes attacks on LDS Church members in good standing.

That you single me out for opprobrium here is odd. And, as for Hypatia's mob? You couldn't be more wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:10 pm 
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Look, Dr. Peterson is a wonderful guy. I don't always agree with what he writes or edits but there's a lot I don't agree with amongst good men who choose to be lightening rods.

This place has been terrible to him, and the assault is usually carried on by cowardly anonymous posters. People who should know better. Lawyers and academics and more.

I hope you're happy, Kish, sitting there in the safety of your ivory tower of Classicism and doing the anonymous thing that most of your treasured ancients would find despicable. I will wager that you were in Hypatia's mob.

Isn’t there an abusive cult somewhere in need of your legal expertise?

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Please keep my personal life off of this board. I am totally unable to respond and explain what I do and whom I represent when it involves active matters. I don't expose your personal or professional life. Please leave mine alone.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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Please keep my personal life off of this board. I am totally unable to respond and explain what I do and whom I represent when it involves active matters. I don't expose your personal or professional life. Please leave mine alone.

If I make my personal life known here, then it is fair game.


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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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I don't expose your personal or professional life.

Baloney. You would if you could.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:56 pm 
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Stop badgering people Bob, no one is going to break down and start crying here, so your usual strong arm tactics have no business being aired.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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Just leave my personal life out of your posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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MrStakhanovite wrote:
Stop badgering people Bob, no one is going to break down and start crying here, so your usual strong arm tactics have no business being aired.


I like my strong-arm tactics. They might be effective rejoinders to people who slander anonymously.

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Please keep my personal life off of this board. I am totally unable to respond and explain what I do and whom I represent when it involves active matters. I don't expose your personal or professional life. Please leave mine alone.

If I make my personal life known here, then it is fair game.


Oh I am sooooo scared! You must be sooooo important. Sue me.

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I don't recall you ever exposing my personal life. I think you are a fine poster.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
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Stop badgering people Bob, no one is going to break down and start crying here, so your usual strong arm tactics have no business being aired.


I like my strong-arm tactics. They might be effective rejoinders to people who slander anonymously.


Yeah, and if you work real hard and impress lots of people you might get noticed by one of the big boys, like Scientology.

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I don't recall you ever exposing my personal life. I think you are a fine poster.


I'm even finer in bed.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Yahoo,

I have no idea whether this is real or what on earth is going on. It looks real, but I want to know whether it is real. You are deeply mistaken if you think I am experiencing some kind of Schadenfreude here. I don't know whether anything has happened or, if something has, why it has happened. I will say that I hope the Mormon Studies Review succeeds in its new direction, if that new direction excludes attacks on LDS Church members in good standing.

That you single me out for opprobrium here is odd. And, as for Hypatia's mob? You couldn't be more wrong.


There's lots you do with your skills. Instead you fight to make BYU a more bland place by silencing one of its voices with sharp elbows. It isn't enough that you attack the theories, you attack the professional reputations of those who advance them.

You're the power here, not Scratch. You're the one to understand academic freedom and free speech. Let's all yawn at what the Review will now be.

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 Post subject: Re: Confirmation of Developments?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:20 pm 
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There's lots you do with your skills. Instead you fight to make BYU a more bland place by silencing one of its voices with sharp elbows. It isn't enough that you attack the theories, you attack the professional reputations of those who advance them.


Of course Bob is just talking out of his ass on this one. Kish has done nothing of the sort. Bob is just pissed off, as if Dan Peterson and William Schryver, that they cannot blame the apostates for any of this. If these things are transpiring as we suspect, then it is coming from dissenting voices from within their own house. They are trying to blame us the same way they tried to blame us for the failure of Schryver's so-called publication. And the same thing with Greg Smith's. They haven't a humble bone in their collective bodies to ever admit being wrong about anything. They're always going to be the eternal victims in their minds.

Bob can't seem to get his mind around the fact that Dan Peterson is reaping what he has been sowing for years now. Dan was the one who had spread lies about Robert Ritner over the course of five years, and only stopped when I contacted Ritner to find out the truth. He's been asked to tone it down but he doesn't listen to anything except his own ego. No wonder he gets along so well with the misogynist William Schryver.

So yes, kudos to NAMIR for choosing to abandon the low-level attack pieces for something that actually resembles scholarship. This war mentality that places everyone on one side or the other, isn't beneficial to anyone who isn't thinking like a Danite.

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