Why does Monson need a tithe payer funded birthday party?

Polygamy-Porter · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:07 pm **Posts:** 4441

Seriously??

It is being held in the Mega'nacle.

How much tithing is being wasted on this??

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... ug-17.html

Polygamy-Porter · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:07 pm **Posts:** 4441

He looks like he is already lit, keep him away from the punched up punch bowl.

Polygamy-Porter · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:07 pm **Posts:** 4441

Thommy is a f'n rockstar.

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Free tickets for the celebration are required. Because of the expected high demand, tickets will be distributed through a random selection process. Those interested in receiving tickets have two ways of registering. Beginning Saturday, June 16, at 12:01 MDT they can register online at www.lds.org/events.

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The program will also be shown over the church satellite system on Saturday, Aug. 18, with subsequent rebroadcasts to many areas of the world.

Oh no, we Mormons do not worship our leaders.

Tobin · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:21 pm

Since they are putting on parts from Broadway shows, they should put on something from Book of Mormon the Musical.

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14251

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Oh no, we Mormons do not worship our leaders.

Of course not. How could a birthday party possibly give you the impression that we do?

Polygamy-Porter · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:07 pm **Posts:** 4441

bcspace wrote:

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Oh no, we Mormons do not worship our leaders.

Of course not. How could a birthday party possibly give you the impression that we do?

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Because of the expected high demand, tickets will be distributed through a random selection process.

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14251

Hasa Diga Eebowai · **Joined:** Tue May 24, 2011 2:57 am **Posts:** 997

Within a few years Monson will be gone and what will his legacy be as a prophet??

Prop8, Widows, Tommy.

There isn't much to remember the guy by and his birthday will be forgotten too. Unlike Joseph Smith where members will be celebrating Smithmas for many years to come.

Thanks,

Hasa Diga Eebowai

Polygamy-Porter · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:07 pm **Posts:** 4441

bcspace wrote:

And?

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/6 ... splay.html

ludwigm · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:07 am

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At the Twentieth Congress of the Communist Party in 1956, Nikita Khrushchev denounced Josef Stalin's "Cult of Personality" in the so-called "Secret Speech." He declared, "It is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of Marxism-Leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics akin to those of a god."

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A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. Sociologist Max Weber developed a tripartite classification of authority; the cult of personality holds parallels with what Weber defined as "charismatic authority". A cult of personality is similar to hero worship, except that it is established by mass media and propaganda.

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On August 10, 2002, the government of Turkmenistan adopted a law to rename all the months and most of the days of week. The names were chosen according to Turkmen national symbols, as described in Ruhnama, a book written by Saparmurat Niyazov, Turkmenistan's first president for life.
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According to the paper Neitralniy Turkmenistan physicians were ordered to swear an oath to the President, replacing the Hippocratic Oath. All libraries outside of the capital were also closed, as Niyazov believed that the only books that most Turkmen needed to read were the Koran and his Ruhnama.
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Niyazov requested that a "palace of ice", or indoor ice skating rink, be built near the capital, so that those living in the desert country could learn to skate. The palace was built in 2008 and located near the new Turkmen State Medical University.
He outlawed opera, ballet, and the circus in 2001 for being "decidedly unturkmen-like".
In February 2004 he decreed that men should no longer wear long hair or beards.

see Kim Jong Il

sock puppet · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:07 am

Polygamy-Porter wrote:

Seriously??

It is being held in the Mega'nacle.

How much tithing is being wasted on this??

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... ug-17.html

Maybe it is tithe-payer funded because he has no friends willing to pop for the expense of a birthday party?

Kishkumen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:24 am

ludwigm wrote:

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At the Twentieth Congress of the Communist Party in 1956, Nikita Khrushchev denounced Josef Stalin's "Cult of Personality" in the so-called "Secret Speech." He declared, "It is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of Marxism-Leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics akin to those of a god."

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A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. Sociologist Max Weber developed a tripartite classification of authority; the cult of personality holds parallels with what Weber defined as "charismatic authority". A cult of personality is similar to hero worship, except that it is established by mass media and propaganda.

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On August 10, 2002, the government of Turkmenistan adopted a law to rename all the months and most of the days of week. The names were chosen according to Turkmen national symbols, as described in Ruhnama, a book written by Saparmurat Niyazov, Turkmenistan's first president for life.
...
According to the paper Neitralniy Turkmenistan physicians were ordered to swear an oath to the President, replacing the Hippocratic Oath. All libraries outside of the capital were also closed, as Niyazov believed that the only books that most Turkmen needed to read were the Koran and his Ruhnama.
...
Niyazov requested that a "palace of ice", or indoor ice skating rink, be built near the capital, so that those living in the desert country could learn to skate. The palace was built in 2008 and located near the new Turkmen State Medical University.
He outlawed opera, ballet, and the circus in 2001 for being "decidedly unturkmen-like".
In February 2004 he decreed that men should no longer wear long hair or beards.

see Kim Jong Il

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Drifting · **Joined:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:52 am **Posts:** 7308

Now what you have to keep in mind is that this is not a surprise birthday party. Which means Monson is fully aware of the forthcoming gala and the attention that he will receive. Any Prophet worth his salt would be saying to the people wanting to organise this "No chaps, in this time of need it would be wrong of me to allow the widows mite to be spent on festivities for me. Let's take the value of the gala and spend it in something more worthy like children in need."

But no, he wants the plaudits, the fawning, the adulation.
Dear Leader indeed....

harmony · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:04 am

For all we know, his children are funding this.

It's not like the books are open where we can see a line item like Birthday parties for the Brethren.

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:21 am

Drifting wrote:

Now what you have to keep in mind is that this is not a surprise birthday party. Which means Monson is fully aware of the forthcoming gala and the attention that he will receive. Any Prophet worth his salt would be saying to the people wanting to organise this "No chaps, in this time of need it would be wrong of me to allow the widows mite to be spent on festivities for me. Let's take the value of the gala and spend it in something more worthy like children in need."

But no, he wants the plaudits, the fawning, the adulation.
Dear Leader indeed....

Celebrating a prophet's birthday is akin to celebrating God because a prophet is the mouthpiece of God and certainly the closest you could ever get to Him. Maybe this is how Monson thinks of it and therefore justifies the expense and pomp?

It's understandable, given the prophet really believes in his calling per the Mormon definition of prophet.

DarkHelmet · **Joined:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:38 pm **Posts:** 2503

They had a surplus of cash this year. Use it or lose it.

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:18 am

The Mormon culture is like a giant family and rightfully so. As the head patriarch of this family, Monson deserves a celebration.

The church has a powerful leader and a need for tradition to bind the masses. This can be accomplished with luxurious celebrations at the nucleus. This is necessary for the church to maintain a central figure for the believers to cling to.

Certainly, a justified expense for those that follow it.

The Mighty Builder · **Joined:** Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:48 pm **Posts:** 1098

Why isn't the cost being donated to the poor and needy? Wouldn't that be a better gift to the Mormon Man god's puppet leader?

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 pm

The Mighty Builder wrote:

Why isn't the cost being donated to the poor and needy? Wouldn't that be a better gift to the Mormon Man god's puppet leader?

Yes if the church was a humanitarian organization.

Kishkumen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:12 pm

zeezrom wrote:

The Mormon culture is like a giant family and rightfully so. As the head patriarch of this family, Monson deserves a celebration.

The church has a powerful leader and a need for tradition to bind the masses. This can be accomplished with luxurious celebrations at the nucleus. This is necessary for the church to maintain a central figure for the believers to cling to.

Certainly, a justified expense for those that follow it.

The leader merits our veneration. Ruler cult is alive and well in the LDS Church.

Here, however, it is OK, not like the evil anti-Christ ruler cult of Obama that has Dr. Peterson anticipating the imminent return of Jesus.

Now this just needs to happen every year.

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Interesting. Can u point me to comments by D Peterson regarding this Obama crisis ushering the 2nd coming of Our Lord?

Why does Monson need a tithe payer funded birthday party?

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