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 Post subject: Auto-Baptism, Anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:44 pm 
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After being converted by the preaching of Abinadi, Alma leaves the city, avoids being killed by King Noah’s assassins, and hides out in some trees by a body of water called the waters of Mormon. He gathers around him a following and creates a church in the wilderness.

When his followers exclaim that they want to be baptized, Alma does something without precedence in any of the standard works—he baptizes himself.

“And now it came to pass that Alma took Helam, he being one of the first, and went and stood forth in the water, and cried, saying, ‘O Lord, pour out thy Spirit upon thy servant, that he may do this work with holiness of heart.’ And when he had said these words, the Spirit of the Lord was upon him, and he said, ‘Helam, I baptize thee, having authority from the Almighty God . . ..’ And after Alma had said these words, both Alma and Helam were buried in the water; and they arose and came forth out of the water rejoicing, being filled with the Spirit.” (Mosiah 18:12-14)

Although there is no other instance of this occurring in the standard works, there is one recounting of such an auto-baptism in the apocryphal Acts of Paul, involving a female disciple named Thecla, who was supposed to be in the process of being martyred by the Romans:

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The Acts of Paul, Chapter 9

6 Afterwards they brought out many other wild beasts; but Thecla stood with her hands stretched towards heaven, and prayed; and when she had done praying, she turned about, and saw a pit of water, and said, Now it is a proper time for me to be baptized.

7 Accordingly she threw herself into the water, and said, In thy name, O my Lord Jesus Christ, I am this last day baptized. The women and the people seeing this, cried out, and said, Do not throw yourself into the water. And the governor himself cried out, to think that the fish (sea-calves) were like to devour so much beauty.

8 ¶ Notwithstanding all this, Thecla threw herself into the water, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 But the fish (sea-calves,) when they saw the lighting and fire, were killed, and swam dead upon the surface of the water, and a cloud of fire surrounded



No less an authority than the Oxford Bible Dictionary regards Thecla’s “auto-baptism” as a “unique act.” Oxford Bible Dictionary, p. 1309.

A “unique act,” that is, except for one other apparent mention—in the Book of Mormon.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto-Baptism, Anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:04 pm 
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I think the Church would reply that some acts done with your own hand are okay and other acts performed with your own hand break the law of Chastity.

Consiglieri, this is a very interesting subject. It speaks to our relationship with God independent of any officiating body.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto-Baptism, Anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:17 pm 
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moksha wrote:
I think the Church would reply that some acts done with your own hand are okay and other acts performed with your own hand break the law of Chastity.


:lol:

moksha wrote:
Consiglieri, this is a very interesting subject. It speaks to our relationship with God independent of any officiating body.


I agree. Which is why I think the institutional church glosses over this occurrence.

It is strange that, when Joseph Smith was baptized, he did it differently, too, thinking it important for him to baptize Oliver first, and then to have Oliver baptize him.

I am unaware of any time this form of baptism as recounted in the Book of Mormon has been replicated in the history of the church that took its nick-name from that volume.

Or, with the possible exception of Thecla, anywhere else, for that matter.

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