Thank You Bishop

Chap · **Joined:** Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:23 am **Posts:** 5553

That's like Jesus sending you to jail, I suppose ...

son of Ishmael · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 4:00 pm

I see that it was dated 2000. How long were you there?

Doctor Scratch · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 5:56 pm

Wow, so the Church itself paid for this, eh? That's quite a stunning piece of evidence.

Eric · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 9:29 am

son of Ishmael wrote:

I see that it was dated 2000. How long were you there?

For about $100k.

Doctor CamNC4Me · **Joined:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:02 am **Posts:** 4533

Welp, when doing the Lord's work...

- VRDRC

Buffalo · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 9:57 am

This s*** needs to hit the fan.

Rambo · **Joined:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 1896

I think I know someone that went there as well.

He smoked weed and I think he did a bit of escatasy as well. His parents pretty much kidnapped him and sent him to a rehab center in Utah. Could be this I guess...

Willy Law · **Joined:** Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:53 pm **Posts:** 1369

So the Boys Ranch is considered "health care"?
I always found Bishop Huffaker to be great person, what was his involvement in the decision to send you to the Boys Ranch?

Eric · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 11:08 am

Willy Law wrote:

I always found Bishop Huffaker to be great person

Meh.

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what was his involvement in the decision to send you to the Boys Ranch?

I don't know enough about it yet to comment, but I look forward to finding out.

Below is some of my favorite commentary regarding the "allegation" that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints *DIRECTLY* supports the Chris Buttars Utah Boys Ranch:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/01/05/680293/-Trapped-in-a-Mormon-Gulag wrote:

Chino, I know you're pissed about Prop 8 (the reason you wrote another Mormon bashing diary), but this isn't productive.

Let's say the title said 'Trapped in a Jewish Gulag'. Not only would it never make the rec list, but the diarist would never be heard from again. Of course I'm not advocating Chino disappear, but this diary (especially the title) doesn't belong on the rec list.

by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:33:38 AM PST

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If it's not owned the church, the title needs to be changed.

by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:40:20 AM PST

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This camp has nothing to do with the Mormon Church.

by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 07:25:04 AM PST

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Whether some camp in Utah is doing that in the name of the church is something that should be looked into, but calling it a Mormon Gulag is a lie. Plus, the intentions of the diarist are clear. The diarist is upset with the church over prop 8 (rightfully so), but the diarist is using untrue sniping attacks to vent his anger.

by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 08:05:11 AM PST

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I'm not really upset about the diary, as I think this ranch is a nuts, but the title and the tying to the LDS religion is not only inflammatory but also inaccurate.

by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:39:14 AM PST

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PROVE that the place is staffed by missionaries[*].
Prove it.

by benthos on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:19:17 AM PST

*http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_living/mission_life/?id=7284

http://oneutah.org/utah-politics/trapped-in-a-mormon-gulag/ wrote:

That story is just another smear on the Mormon church. Probably some homo who’s still mad about prop 8 and displacing his anger on the Mormons...Also if you look at the board of trustees[*] not one of them is a leader in the Mormon church. Kind of wierd if the school really is run by the Mormons.

by Utahn on January 6, 2009 - 11:41 am

*http://westridgestaff.wordpress.com/category/shareholders/

http://oneutah.org/utah-politics/trapped-in-a-mormon-gulag/ wrote:

I’m not Mormon but I have many good Mormon friends. I think it’s ridiculous that people feel the need to make up stupid stories like this to try and smear them. Leave them alone and worry about religions that really are bad like Muslims.

by Richard Warnick on January 6, 2009 - 11:51 am

Here is another document that speaks to the kind of non-denominational "treatment" Boys Ranch boys receive.

Doctor CamNC4Me · **Joined:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:02 am **Posts:** 4533

This is insanity. No church should be doing this. It's a waste of tithes, and its abusive toward children.

Eric, you have my deepest sympathies. I'm sorry you had to endure this nonsense.

- VRDRC

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14251

Too much money for a camp that treats you with kid gloves. Eric, I'll design a camp that'll have you reformed in less than a year with a money back guarantee seeing as how you obviously still need reformin'.

:cool:

Buffalo · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 1:40 pm

bcspace wrote:

Too much money for a camp that treats you with kid gloves. Eric, I'll design a camp that'll have you reformed in less than a year with a money back guarantee seeing as how you obviously still need reformin'.

:cool:

Don't be a dick.

Eric · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 3:00 pm

Just imagine how much of your tithing money The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spends on following me around with Private Investigators:

More about the favorite P.I firm for The Church of Scientology and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:

Scientology's Private Investigators

Founded by Ron Williams former Secret Service Agent for the Bush Administration.

These are the same people that were hired to keep the press off of oily beaches when BP tried to destroy the planet.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06 ... y-beaches/

Kishkumen · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 3:23 pm

Eric wrote:

More about the favorite P.I firm for The Church of Scientology and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:

Scientology's Private Investigators

Founded by Ron Williams former Secret Service Agent for the Bush Administration.

These are the same people that were hired to keep the press off of oily beaches when BP tried to destroy the planet.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06 ... y-beaches/

Classy.

marg · **Joined:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:58 am **Posts:** 1068

Eric wrote:

He seems more irritable and somewhat depressed. ..I spoke with ct about God’s admonishment to ask Him for the things that we need.

What a depressing situation to be in.. held against one’s will for years, and made to accept very delusional beliefs of those in control.

lostindc · **Joined:** Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1208

Eric,

you have my sympathies, if you are ever in the DC area I will buy you lunch or whatever, you just have to find a sitter for my kids (joking about sitter).

I had a situation on a lesser scale that involved Church leadership but to this day only a handful of people no about it and I am not sure I will ever discuss it in full (sorry to give a teaser and pull away). F%$ked up.

Edited to add: this is ruthless and really is child abuse.

thews · **Joined:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:26 am **Posts:** 2678

Eric wrote:

Just imagine how much of your tithing money The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spends on following me around with Private Investigators:

More about the favorite P.I firm for The Church of Scientology and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:

Scientology's Private Investigators

Founded by Ron Williams former Secret Service Agent for the Bush Administration.

These are the same people that were hired to keep the press off of oily beaches when BP tried to destroy the planet.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06 ... y-beaches/

Shocked. The Mormon mafia isn't just an unsubstantiated rumor.

SteelHead · **Posted:** Sat May 26, 2012 7:19 pm

So, doing the math you were in the mormon lockup for 40 months?

You should write a book about this experience.

Yoda · **Posted:** Sat May 26, 2012 7:30 pm

SteelHead wrote:

So, doing the math you were in the mormon lockup for 40 months?

You should write a book about this experience.

Actually, Eric is working on a book and a movie, right, Eric?

I believe he completed a documentary which he produced on the Internet.

Eric, you definitely experienced child abuse. I am so sorry you went through this.

You are a bright young man, and I think that you have grown in spite of this awful experience. I honestly hope that through your efforts, and your former classmates' efforts, this facility can be shut down. It violates so many laws, I have no idea how it is still open.

*Cyber hugs to you*

SteelHead · **Posted:** Sat May 26, 2012 7:39 pm

liz3564 wrote:

SteelHead wrote:

So, doing the math you were in the mormon lockup for 40 months?

You should write a book about this experience.

Actually, Eric is working on a book and a movie, right, Eric?

I believe he completed a documentary which he produced on the Internet.

Eric, you definitely experienced child abuse. I am so sorry you went through this.

You are a bright young man, and I think that you have grown in spite of this awful experience. I honestly hope that through your efforts, and your former classmates' efforts, this facility can be shut down. It violates so many laws, I have no idea how it is still open.

*Cyber hugs to you*

Is there a link to the documentary?

Thanks

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