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 Post subject: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:50 am 
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Over on Kerry Shirts' facebook page he posted a quotation purporting to come from Hitler. The citations says he is against unions and strikes. Now it is questionable as to whether this is a valid citation from Hitler, and some on the thread have expressed those concerns. However this is really beside the point as we know Hitler opposed unions in 1933.

William Hamblin jumps in with this quip: "Hitler was a National Socialist. Fascism, in all its forms, is a leftist ideology."

I responded by explaining that Hitler only used the word "socialist" to gain the support of moderates, but he was far from a Socialist. Hamblin then responds with:

"See Goldberg, Liberal Fascism, Doubleday, 2008."

Naturally, I assumed that being a scholar and a historian, that Professor Hamblin would be recommending an academic study of some kind.

Far from it!

What kind of academic recommends this moron for something as serious as European History?

This Goldberg fellow is the Pahoran of Right Wing politics. Just switch "anti-Mormon" for "Liberal."

This reminds me of another embarrassing moment in the Hamblin hall of shame. Shortly after reading the groundbreaking work by historian Thomas Madden, I once mentioned that the Crusades were intended to be acts of self defense by those involved. Hamblin responded by laughing, saying he has never known of any historian to make such a ridiculous assertion. Then I flip over to Hamblin's "required reading" for his class on Islam, and lo and behold, Thomas Madden's book was on Hamblin's short list. Hamblin didn't even know what his own recommended scholars believed on this matter. I pointed this out to him, and it was at that point DCP came running in to lure him away, claiming I was impossible to talk to because I was too uncivil!

You know, we've been told that these guys at NAMIR are super smart intellectual studs, real scholars, etc etc. But the more I interact with them, the more I tend to view them as weak-minded pseudo-intellectuals who are eager to have their religious beliefs fed to them by a Church and their political beliefs fed to them by Right Wing propaganda.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:55 am 
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I think that it is fairly clear by now that there is an ideological bent to the nastier side of Mopologetics. The attack on Joanna Brooks made that abundantly clear, but so too did the attack on Bokovoy, and the decline of Hodges. By contrast, the rise of Schryver is striking. Is it just a matter of coincidence that those who do better are ideological bedfellows, while those who fare worse are too, despite their differences on issues of faith?

Something is definitely amiss here.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:48 pm 
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This book must have given out in the professor's restroom at BYU.

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.com/2012/05 ... right.html

I think I already took down Droopy Limbaugh over this at one point. The book is a joke that made the problem of misusing "fascism" when "authoritarianism" should have been used in the title. It's downhill from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:51 am 
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General authorities are totally brainwashed yes-men that have stepped up to that office because of their much conditioning and willingness to deny reason and thinking with only part of their brain using rules that has been fed to them by the Mormon system. They are intelligent men that walk around with half a brain and are not to be trusted in anything because their main mission is to protect the church and its reputation at any cost. Honesty and transparency is not part of the mission of LDS general authorities. They will cover up, hide, tell half truths, deny, and resist information in order to protect the testimonies that have been built on warm fuzzy feelings. They have built their whole house on a warm feeling!

Top BYU school teachers are also of a special class. They too only think with half of a brain. They have conditioned themselves to reject anything that would overturn Mormon truth claims and will use any and all methods to present their case in a dishonest manner -- biased, halftruths, etc.

When is the last time you ever heard a general authority or BYU school teacher get up and say the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 are not true? How about DCP? Has he done that? No, because he thinks with half of his brain and is out to protect the church (and his job) at any cost. How sad. How utterly dishonest and unscholarly!

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:52 am 
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Bond James Bond wrote:
This book must have given out in the professor's restroom at BYU.

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.com/2012/05 ... right.html

I think I already took down Droopy Limbaugh over this at one point. The book is a joke that made the problem of misusing "fascism" when "authoritarianism" should have been used in the title. It's downhill from there.


Could you link me to that discussion, Bond?

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:02 am 
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Here's one I was involved with Droopy on Kish

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22633&p=558212


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Hamblin's embarrassing recommendation
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:37 am 
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EAllusion wrote:
Here's one I was involved with Droopy on Kish

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 3&p=558212


Thanks, EA. I am glad there are those people like yourself who yet ave the patience to address Droopy's loopy nonsense.

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