Overeaters are breaking the Word of Wisdom...

Drifting · **Joined:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:52 am **Posts:** 7308

Here is the official doctrine on the matter...

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We should avoid anything that we know is harmful to our bodies. We should not use any substance that is habit forming. We should also avoid overeating.

http://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-princi ... h?lang=eng

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Overeating generally refers to the long-term consumption of excess food in relation to the energy that an organism expends (or expels via excretion), leading to weight gaining and often obesity.

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 6:45 am

Maybe we could say, "Overeaters are breaking the WoW."

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bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14419

That is correct. However, the Church judges "good standing" in this area only by the items forbidden: Coffee, Tea, Alcohol, Tobacco, and Harmful Drugs. So one can see that abiding only be those items or even carrying a TR are not necessarily signs of personal righteousness or good standing with God. However, God has not defined overeating or obesity (except standards for missionary service) so one cannot always judge another in this way.

By the same principle, a TR carrying Mormon who is a Democrat is not in good standing with the Lord. We can tell because the Democratic Party is known to be in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and so righteous judgement on this issue is easy to make.

Buffalo · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 11:50 am

bcspace wrote:

That is correct. However, the Church judges "good standing" in this area only by the items forbidden: Coffee, Tea, Alcohol, Tobacco, and Harmful Drugs. So one can see that abiding only be those items or even carrying a TR are not necessarily signs of personal righteousness or good standing with God. However, God has not defined overeating or obesity (except standards for missionary service) so one cannot always judge another in this way.

By the same principle, a TR carrying Mormon who is a Democrat is not in good standing with the Lord. We can tell because the Democratic Party is known to be in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and so righteous judgement on this issue is easy to make.

Of the items you listed, only tobacco is forbidden by the WOW.

Why is Thomas S Monson calling people not in good standing with the Lord to high office? :question:

zeezrom · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 4:29 pm

The Claim Jumper is evil. Pure evil.

moksha · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 4:46 pm

Running with this idea, that those weighing more than the standard metropolitan life insurance tables indicate as within the accepted range are out of compliance with the word of wisdom, would be a means of reducing both the size of members and well as the number of members.

moksha · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 4:51 pm

Choose The Fries or The Right

So, do you want ketchup or fry sauce with that order?

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14419

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Of the items you listed, only tobacco is forbidden by the WOW.

Not according to the doctrine.

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14419

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Running with this idea, that those weighing more than the standard metropolitan life insurance tables indicate as within the accepted range are out of compliance with the word of wisdom, would be a means of reducing both the size of members and well as the number of members.

Speaking of insurance, I'm at 16% body fat which is good for my sex and age. However, I also have more than average muscle mass, because I go to the gym, which is heavy and increases my BMI and therefore negatively affects any insurance premiums which uses BMI.

Buffalo · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2012 12:23 pm

bcspace wrote:

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Of the items you listed, only tobacco is forbidden by the WOW.

Not according to the doctrine.

I was talking about the WOW, not Grant's heresy.

bcspace · **Joined:** Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:48 pm **Posts:** 14419

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Not according to the doctrine.

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I was talking about the WOW, not Grant's heresy.

I was talking about existing doctrine which by definition can't be heresy.

Sophocles · **Joined:** Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:39 pm **Posts:** 274

bcspace wrote:

By the same principle, a TR carrying Mormon who is a Democrat is not in good standing with the Lord. We can tell because the Democratic Party is known to be in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and so righteous judgement on this issue is easy to make.

Bspace, to which political party must Japanese citizens who are TR carrying Mormons belong in order to be in good standing with the Lord?

Also Finland.

Buffalo · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2012 12:36 pm

bcspace wrote:

I was talking about existing doctrine which by definition can't be heresy.

So the Great Apostasy never happened. Thanks for clearing that up.

ludwigm · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2012 12:49 pm

Sophocles wrote:

bcspace wrote:

By the same principle, a TR carrying Mormon who is a Democrat is not in good standing with the Lord. We can tell because the Democratic Party is known to be in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and so righteous judgement on this issue is easy to make.

Bspace, to which political party must Japanese citizens who are TR carrying Mormons belong in order to be in good standing with the Lord?

Also Finland.

In another thread I wrote:

- The Christian Democratic People's Party (Kereszténydemokrata Néppárt, KDNP) is a political party in Hungary.

- The Fidesz – Hungarian Civic Union (Hungarian pronunciation: [ˈfidɛs]; in full: Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség) is a major conservative party in Hungary. The party was founded in 1988, named simply Fidesz (Fiatal Demokraták Szövetsége, Alliance of Young Democrats), originally as a youthful libertarian, anti-communist party. (Today they are older than that...)

BTW At the 2010 election in Hungary, Fidesz-KDNP won a two-thirds majority of seats by gaining 52% of the votes - and use their power the same way as the wildest socialist leadership of the 50's.
With some difference, because they are conservative...

ludwigm · **Posted:** Wed May 23, 2012 11:18 pm

Drifting wrote:

Here is the official doctrine on the matter...

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We should avoid anything that we know is harmful to our bodies. We should not use any substance that is habit forming. We should also avoid overeating.

Overeaters are breaking the Word of Wisdom...

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