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 Post subject: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:06 pm 
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Was Jesus and his disciples called Mormons?

Did Nephi and his descendants have wards and stakes?

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:34 pm 
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No, but LDS doctrine is the only doctrine that matches it.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:43 pm 
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Right.....

Current institutional church (lds), looks very little like the 1st century christian church.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:52 pm 
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Right.....

Current institutional church (lds), looks very little like the 1st century christian church.


Yes. Doctrinally, it does.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Ok bc.... Please show where the early Christian church taught:
Eternal marriage
Temple worship as practiced by current lds church
The organization of the church as now instituted in LDSdom
The division of higher and lower priesthood in the church
Tithing
The official passing of the priesthood to the apostles
The first presidency

I can keep going but I"ll let you respond. Biblically or in the writings of the early church fathers.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:24 pm 
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:
Was Jesus and his disciples called Mormons?
No, they were called Jews.
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Did Nephi and his descendants have wards and stakes?
Yes, but the basketball courts weren't carpeted.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:03 pm 
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bcspace wrote:
No, but LDS doctrine is the only doctrine that matches it.

is your statement doctrine Bcspace? How can we know if what you say is pure b.s. or doctrine? I know, how about every time you tell us what doctrine is, you have an official statement from an LDS authority confirming that you represent the church and are qualified to represent it's "official doctrine". Oh, and please make certain that the LDS "authority" has authority as the authority for doctrine.

If not, lets just call any and everything you say as "opinion of men", fluff, b.s., hogwash, or whatever else that denotes trivial blathering.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:35 pm 
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bcspace wrote:
No, but LDS doctrine is the only doctrine that matches it.

is your statement doctrine Bcspace? How can we know if what you say is pure b.s. or doctrine? I know, how about every time you tell us what doctrine is, you have an official statement from an LDS authority confirming that you represent the church and are qualified to represent it's "official doctrine". Oh, and please make certain that the LDS "authority" has authority as the authority for doctrine.

If not, lets just call any and everything you say as "opinion of men", fluff, b.s., hogwash, or whatever else that denotes trivial blathering.


At this point BC Space is just trolling. He isn't even trying anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:19 pm 
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At this point BC Space is just trolling. He isn't even trying anymore.


You may be right. I've already given this type of evidence many times before.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:55 pm 
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Ok I'll narrow it down to one item. Please show how the Mormon teachings on tithing are consistent with the NT and the writings of the early church fathers.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:53 am 
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bcspace wrote:
No, but LDS doctrine is the only doctrine that matches it.


Incorrect. Mormonism bears little if any resemblance to the apocalyptic, messianic Judaism of Yeshua ben Yosef.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:21 am 
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The authors of the Book of Mormon had no problem identifying Jesus by name hundreds of years before he was born, "speaking of things to come as though they had already come." Too bad Isaiah and Jeremiah couldn't have also spoken as plainly of things to come as though they had already come, and saved the world a lot of trouble.

So why didn't Jesus also drop the name of Mormonism casually into his sermons, and when his listeners responded with quizzical looks, just explain that he was speaking of things to come as though they had already come?

Wait, I know. If Jesus had mentioned Mormonism by name that would take away our agency. Isaiah and Jeremiah were probably similarly constrained from mentioning Jesus by name.

But then, why were the Nephites allowed to mention Jesus by name?


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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:35 am 
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Sophocles wrote:
The authors of the Book of Mormon had no problem identifying Jesus by name hundreds of years before he was born, "speaking of things to come as though they had already come." Too bad Isaiah and Jeremiah couldn't have also spoken as plainly of things to come as though they had already come, and saved the world a lot of trouble.


I always find the mention of Jesus in the early Book of Mormon funny. Of course, if you accept the loose translation argument, it could be that the Nephite prophets prophesied of the coming messiah, in the same way the OT does, but Joseph Smith realized they were talking about Jesus, so he just used his name during the translation.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Christ's theology called Mormonism 2000 years ago??
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:29 am 
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lulu wrote:
Polygamy-Porter wrote:
Was Jesus and his disciples called Mormons?
No, they were called Jews.
Polygamy-Porter wrote:
Did Nephi and his descendants have wards and stakes?
Yes, but the basketball courts weren't carpeted.

LMAO!

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