son of Ishmael wrote:
Yup, Just follow Moroni's promise and pray. Didn't get an answer? You didn't pray hard enough! Pray harder. Still did not get an answer? Then you must be sinning. Just remember it is always your fault
Clearly you missed the point. Don't worry, I didn't get it either and left as well.
1) We don't get to make demands of God - that's your first mistake.
Why not? Who says we don't get to make demands of god? Other men. Yup, cuz god hasn't told me that's one of the rules, so its just other men saying so. Why should I take other men's word for it in the face of this god who hides and doesn't speak to me?
2) God already knows who and what you are. So trying or pretending to be something you aren't is never going to fool the Lord.
So why not go directly to judgment day and eternal assignment? What's this whole life/existence on earth for? God already knows, so this life is nothing more than a boot camp discipline exercise--but it won't work because we can't pretend to be something were not, right?
3) The Lord will decide if and when to answer you.
Yup. The invisible Silent Bob, the one who never appears, never speaks. Someone for whom it isn't worth two sh*** to let his 'children' each know or not. Just this 'pin the mystery myth on the donkey' in the sky. Really?
So you are either committed, no matter what to following, suffering the trials of the Lord, and seeking God or your aren't.
'the trials of the lord'--thought he was supposed to have done all that suffering for us. Is he welching on that promise now? Seeking a myth? Thank you, no.
It will never be a matter or how hard you try or wish or pray or whatever you think you are going to attempt here. It is what you are and have determined to be that matters.
Yup. You are what you are, this mythical sky pilot knows it, and you can't pretend. That's the drill, right?
If you don't believe me, look hard at yourself right now and try to answer the question if you were the Lord, would you trust you given what you have done?
If I were the lord? Wow, then the lord would actually exist in reality, and not be a myth. Wouldn't that be refreshing? the lord actually be a being that exists rather than just a myth? If I were the lord, trust me with what? Probably everything. I am a damn trustworthy guy, probably because I don't buy into myths. For decades now, I've not been that damn gullible. So you can trust me with whatever.
Now, if you willing to change, be reborn through the grace of God, and follow the Lord - that is your decision.
Wait. Change? The lord knows what I am already. How can I change? But, your asking me to imagine that I am the lord (see above) makes this one much easier. I do make my own decisions, and follow them. My decisions. Following the lord--me!
But don't approach it lightly and with the attitude that you can force the Lord to answer you. It is with dedication, long suffering, and humble patience that you accomplish this.
Don't approach it that this mythical lord gives a damn, and would care to impart this 'important' info to me or others. Dedication, long suffering and humble patience is what it takes to be a college prof, a scholar, a professional with private clientele, take out the garbage, work 8 hour shifts at McDonald's, drive truck for a living, deal with inmates you are guarding--oh, and any and everything else we all do day to day.
Oh, and one last thing - it requires faith.
Yeah, that is the one last thing, isn't it? Believing in something someone else-heaven forbid, not this mythical god himself-but suggests to you but for which there is no empirical evidence. It boils down to that, being gullible enough, doesn't it?