What we have here is a great example of how MsJack is liar. I’m sure she remembers very well that, in the thread where he is alleged to have called harmony the “c” word, the primary person Will was having a discussion with was Rollo Tomasi. Rollo replied to the post where Will allegedly used the word. Liz provided evidence that the post harmony deleted (that supposedly contained the offending word) was up on the board for over 7 hours—from 11:00am to 6:30pm that day. Rollo was the only one to quote Will’s post, and his reply he didn’t mention anything about Will having used such a word. Of course, everyone here knows perfectly well that, if Will had used that word, it would have been a VERY big deal to all the “righteous” people on this board, much more so that the pair of posts where he used the “____” word in describing harmony and beastie, which were both seized on and quoted multiple times over the course of months and even years to show what a bad person Will is. But somehow the sensitive people here let Will’s “c” word offense go unmentioned not just in the 7+ hours on the day he is supposed to have said, but then it went unmentioned on the board for 6 MONTHS until MsJack unveiled the accusation in her “Misogyny” thread.
And this is precisely and exactly why I dubbed it, "The Anita Hill Syndrome." It was all forgotten and ignored until the publication of Will's work by the NAMI was a real going concern. Then, suddenly, as if by Gandalfian magic, it reappeared, along with each and every bad word Will had ever used in describing a female critic of the Church whom he found particularly galling, very rare as they were against the background of his entire posting history.
He had also used certain ad hominem terms against males here, but this, for some reason, did not become part of the dogpile. Only attacks aimed at female posters were, for some reason, important. Terms like "____," of course (a female dog) are coarse, but hardly different than something like traditional terms such as "dog" or "cur" aimed at a male (and anyone familiar with Robert E. Howard will know that these were once, in English, solid terms of personal dislike).
Calling a woman a "____"or "whore," while certainly hard edged, are no indication of "misogyny." Misogyny is hatred of woman as a class, and is a psychological orientation. Hard words aimed at gender specific individuals is indicative, unless there is some other facts at hand, of nothing more than extreme dislike of a gendered person in which one uses derogatory, gender specific language.
Sorry I'm so late to this conversation. I just logged in and noted several PM's asking me to comment on the charge of Will calling harmony the "c" word. It's been over 6 months since the thread in question occurred, so my memory is pretty hazy. But I can honestly say that I do not recall ever seeing Will use the "c" word, in that thread or in any other. And given how repulsed I am by that word, I'm pretty sure I would remember if he had.
And yet, Jack is still beating away at the same drum, even though she herself never saw the offending term.
MsJack is a liar and a propagandist. She has tried to manipulate public opinion, either through lies or blatant misrepresentation. That is what propagandists do. But in this case the evidence was strongly against her lies, and there were many observers, in addition to a first-hand witness (Rollo) who outright denied that Will was guilty of the charges she was making.
Which, despite her smarmy pose of intellectual sophistication, belies the reality behind the Kabuki doll.
It's no wonder MsJack doesn't want to revisit that discussion. It really made her look bad, and I'm not surprised that DCP was not persuaded by the case she had to make. Even some of Will's harshest critics weren't convinced, and they had the courage to say so. And that wasn't the only lie in MsJack's thread. She also lied, using out of context quotes and other fabrications, to say taht Will had called women "whores" and "sluts", which he also never did, unless someone wants to stretch it by saying citing a scripture reference (which, if you look it up, contains in part the phrase "whore of all the earth") is the same as calling a woman a "whore" or a "slut".
Yes, this is all so old, and we all went over Jack's own links at that time. There were some inappropriate things, here and there, spread out over huge periods of time in which Will engaged in no such talk, not to mention a great deal of overwrought theatrical stretching of what he had said.
She's on some kind of strange crusade to discredit Will Schryver,
"Strange crusades to discredit" are the coin of the realm here. There's the crusade to discredit Will, Scratch's year in, year out frothing over Danial Peterson, Kevin's obsession with me, Wade, Gee and Will, and on and on and on.