It is currently Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:46 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:11 pm 
God
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:29 am
Posts: 2871
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7053 ... rship.html

"He described a progression from the “Camelot Age,” when LDS Church history was under the direction of Leonard Arrington, and sometimes had a sanitized cast to today’s “Age of Full Disclosure.” Today there is the belief that Joseph Smith can “stand up for himself” and that history thrives when historians are free to pursue truth — including the warts as well as glories."

From the things I have read it seems that Leonard Arrington did away with the "Camelot Age" and they got rid of him because of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington

_________________
I want to fly!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:15 pm 
God

Joined: Sun May 16, 2010 4:00 pm
Posts: 3519
The brethren quickly learned Arrington was a big Mistake on their part. They did not want honest disclosure of history but a sanitized and 'approved' version.
No honest researcher does that.
The reason they got rid of Arrington and Co was simple: the guys were honest and believed in publishing the truth. This would allow readers to learn and decide for themselves - something LDS Inc. cannot live with. All the years of carefully crafting their 'story' and truth makes it fall apart like a cheap thief caught with merchandise stuffed into his pants.

_________________
"This is how INGORNAT these fools are!" - darricktevenson

Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?

infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."


Last edited by Joseph on Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:22 pm 
God
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:29 am
Posts: 2871
"Scholarship, writing, sculpting, painting and performance are plausible and practical pursuits in a growing church that now has the capacity to sustain such artists and scholars. It is thrilling that dedicated scholars and artists can find a market for their efforts. And such synergistic vitality has the capacity to greatly empower and expand scholarly and artistic expression"

One can paint Mormons in Missouri burning down buildings or the MMM in vivid detail, write about it, sculpt it and fear no retribution. I 'd like for that to exist as it's actually a pretty picture.

_________________
I want to fly!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:42 pm 
God
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:01 am
Posts: 1429
karl61 wrote:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705376021/Richard-Bushman-on-Mormon-scholarship.html

"He described a progression from the “Camelot Age,” when LDS Church history was under the direction of Leonard Arrington, and sometimes had a sanitized cast to today’s “Age of Full Disclosure.” Today there is the belief that Joseph Smith can “stand up for himself” and that history thrives when historians are free to pursue truth — including the warts as well as glories."

From the things I have read it seems that Leonard Arrington did away with the "Camelot Age" and they got rid of him because of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington


Yeah, there is something ass-backwards about that article. I may just be a cynical old woman, but what I hear it saying is something like this: Rest assured, members, what you hear in church is the unvarnished truth and all the truth you need. No need to go outside the manuals. Joseph Smith can stand up for himself, and we'll tell you all about him, warts and all. Trust in your leaders and your apologists and your correlation comittee.

_________________
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens

Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:26 pm 
God
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:29 am
Posts: 2871
What's crazy is that this is tweaking of something that is current.

_________________
I want to fly!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: a deseret news article
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:48 pm 
Bishop
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 10:04 am
Posts: 514
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
karl61 wrote:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705376021/Richard-Bushman-on-Mormon-scholarship.html

"He described a progression from the “Camelot Age,” when LDS Church history was under the direction of Leonard Arrington, and sometimes had a sanitized cast to today’s “Age of Full Disclosure.” Today there is the belief that Joseph Smith can “stand up for himself” and that history thrives when historians are free to pursue truth — including the warts as well as glories."

From the things I have read it seems that Leonard Arrington did away with the "Camelot Age" and they got rid of him because of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington


Yeah, there is something ass-backwards about that article. I may just be a cynical old woman, but what I hear it saying is something like this: Rest assured, members, what you hear in church is the unvarnished truth and all the truth you need. No need to go outside the manuals. Joseph Smith can stand up for himself, and we'll tell you all about him, warts and all. Trust in your leaders and your apologists and your correlation comittee.

I always thought the 'Camelot Age' label came from historians who liked that Arrington opened up the archives and the dialogue — and not necessarily by Church leaders. It would be hard to see why they would see that time as Camelot and IMO Arrington's release is pretty good evidence of that.

That's why I find the quote attributed to Bushman a little hard to buy. Either the author got it wrong or Bushman has crazier views than I would have thought.

_________________
Crawling around the evidence in order to maintain a testimony of the Book of Mormon.

http://www.ldsrevelations.com/blog


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], cafe crema, Google [Bot] and 25 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Revival Theme By Brandon Designs By B.Design-Studio © 2007-2008 Brandon
Revival Theme Based off SubLite By Echo © 2007-2008 Echo
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group