You're a better man than I am, Cricketito.

And it is possible Liz may be better than the two of us combined.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

You are right that it changes the tone, Liz.

It makes me not only uncomfortable, but nauseous, too. ;^)

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

Skimming through that thread, I note there are some people with a lot of hostility towards you.

I always enjoyed reading conference over watching it. I think it's just that I got a lot more out of it because I was able to take my own time, look up references, and really spend time thinking about what I was reading.

I suspect I'll end up watching at least part of conference this weekend. I don't think I'm well enough to do much of anything else.

Noticed that, did you?

I hope you get to feeling better soon, Runtu.

You are a genuinely good guy.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

Thanks. I appreciate that, and you know how highly I think of you. I'm just really tired of being sick.

I enjoy conference weekend, in general, because I don't have to dress up for Church. I hate dresses and nylons. And, any chance I have to wear sweats on the weekend makes it a great weekend for me! :-)

I love listening to the choir. That is probably my favorite part of conference. I have had the opportunity to sing under the direction of Dr. Wilberg. I was in his Concert Choir at BYU. His arrangements of pieces for the choir are phenomenal.

Let me be more explicit. In general, I find that Schryver's posts lead me to conclude that he is highly narcissistic and given to exhibitionism, and that his sense of where boundaries should be drawn is somewhat non-standard.

That kind of thing makes for posts that can be embarrassing and more than a little unpleasant to read, and I certainly would not have wanted a parent posting about me that way. Schryver's family affairs are of course purely their own concern - I'd just prefer they stayed that way.

Trying to be fair to Schryver, I followed the link to his post and read it. It did nothing to improve my opinion of his taste, particularly this bit:



Schryver and DCP do seem to share the ability to believe that everything is about them. At least in DCP's case the belief is usually only in relation to posts on this board. But in Schryver's case he seems to think that an even higher power than Mormon Discussions has got him under its special care. I'm not sure whether it would be worse if he genuinely believed in what he was saying, or if he was just faking it all in the hope that he will be favorably noticed by the Brethren. Either way, it's creepy.

Since the thread at MDDB was closed as I was authoring this post, I have decided to post it here:

Consiglieri wrote:

Of course not. You merely plowed the ground knowing your friends could be counted on to plant the seeds of innuendo--which they did in rather short order.

It was all quite cunningly conceived, and I cannot do less than applaudingly acknowledge the effectiveness of your devilish gambit. The practiced skill with which you executed the maneuver bespeaks a mind disposed to such things, and serves to explain, at least in part, why you can no longer seem to be spiritually moved by the general conferences of the church.

And, with this latest public display of your ever-hardening heart, another milepost is passed along the path of your steadily increasing disaffection. Not to worry, however. I'm sure the housekeeping staff is, as we speak, fluffing the pillows in the vacant single-wide that awaits you here in The Great and Spacious Trailer Park. Just click your heels three times and whisper to yourself: "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home ..."

For what it's worth, I don't think you're a child molester. You just have kind of a creepy personality. I hope that is of some comfort. :)

Hmmm....I know a man, who has slept with three, count 'em THREE young girls. He is in his 4os and currently makes his 10 yo daughter scoot her bed up to his and "snuggle" while he administers the loving rub with lotion of a loving parent. How could anyone be creeped out by that? Damn Mormons always make excuses for bad sexual behaviour. Tell us more Willy Shcryver about what a good person you are calling women whores and outing apostates. Ha!

Oh my goodness. What are we to do? You know Chap, you have provided some thoughtful posts over my reading here, but you also provide some absurdities too. Isn't it at all curious to anyone that names like Schryver or DCP associated with bad qualities here? Why is it their names, and not only their names, will pop up here when someone wishes to editorialize what they perceive as poor qualities in humans?

And people here mock the idea that this is a hostile atmosphere... Hostility is the best word I've found to describe it here, overall.

Do any of you really think this type of stuff was not going to come of quoting Will's comments here? I don't know, maybe you have blinded yourselves. Really?

I am sure you can imagine the best word I've found to describe you and your posts here.

Hostility is what free thought tastes like to the Mo. Name one mo you think is beneath your consideration? None of them are because thay baaaah like a sheep too.

Well since you think its fine to sleep with a molester, then that's true then. Who is the blind one.

pep pep...of course i can. Does it start with an "S" and end in a "T"? I know its against the rules here, but you can say it, SP. Your name appears in color on the board.

Sounds about right to me.

uh...I'm pretty sure that most of the critics here will find posts like this inexcusable. They probably won't say anything, but they won't take your comments seriously. Settle down a little and engage in spirited civil dialog.

Do you think that is because Shades has taken a crayon to my name?

I don't know this feel really hostile to me, I wonder why you won't condemn the actions of a molester. Oh, your church was founded by one.

Twisted, perverted, and crippled, indeed. Not to mention about 29 cans short of a cold case. Now that Paul Osborne has hung up his MDB cleats, only Kevin Graham remains between you and the title of "Biggest Mormon Message Board Lunatic of All Time."

By the way, I have never once, in my entire message board posting career, called a woman a whore.

Furthermore, (and notwithstanding the fact that I'm not even certain what is meant by the term) I have never once "outed" an apostate.

These are merely two among many GSTP myths without substance, repeated so often that they are accepted uncritically.

Now, I confess I did, on at least one occasion, characterize Scratch as a whore of the attention variety, and I also recollect, on at least one occasion, calling dissonance (harmony) a "bitch of a woman," for which I haven't yet been able to muster even a thimble-full of contrition.

As for you, Mr. Would-be Prophet, you'd better tread lightly or I'll pronounce a curse upon your head and you'll be crushed under the weight of the Almighty pressing upon you--or at least be reduced to driving cab for the remainder of your days in this vale of sorrow.