but that MAD house truly is the insane asylum.

The ban hammer has been wielded and there appears to be no rhyme nor reason to its application, other than those who ask that the rules be enforced are being banned, and the rule breakers have immunity.

Temp Ban on Bond for pointing out forbidden sock puppetry.

Full on Ban for MSJack for pointing out some one was using a PM in their sig line.

The only thing consistent over there is that the rules do not apply to some, and the moderation policy is totally ad hoc.

To quote an apt book:



And




That place is a shining beacon of how not to run a discussion forum. There can be no pretense to an free exchange of ideas when an elect cadre are above the rules. There is no pretense of academia or scholarship, as that would mean the promotion of the exchange of dissenting views. There is not even a pretense left of Dialogue nor Discussion. The name is an ironic misnomer, and oxymoron of epic proportion.

I suggest a new name: The Bully Pulpit of the Elect

which being interpreted means:

Rameumptom

Who else fell victim to the latest pogrom? Kevin?

I find it difficult to participate in a board where your post may be silently deleted and you may be banned from participating in a thread. Where threads are routinely locked down without explanation. Sensitive topics such as the priesthood ban are essentially placed off limits. Also any critique of the moderation policies is strictly forbidden. Apparently you aren't even allowed to point out when someone is breaking the rules.

Sometimes I think that critics should refuse to participate on MD&D. The table is titled. The game is rigged. If apologists wish to address critics force them out onto a open discussion board where moderators cannot rig the discussion to make it seem like the apologists are faring better than what they have earned.

Don't you guys understand the true nature of those guys over there. Look. They believe that when their precious Jesus (after 2000 years) finally comes back in the clouds of heaven that he is going to slay us all and burn the Trailer Park to ashes. We are all going to die! The Mormon Messiah is going to slay us all and our bodies will turn to ash as our spirits are cast into hell.

Once you understand that their God is going to murder us for our disbelief and wickedness you can begin to understand that they will treat us like demons from hell that need to be cast into a lake of fire into which the wicked are cast. Their self righteous disgust for us is truly Christian. But their Jesus is not coming back and the Trailer Park will continue to grow and cover the whole earth while their ugly church continues to bleed members.

Paul O

Welcome to the whacky world of Dan G and Juliann! LOL

The place has become a mirror of how the old Tanner Board was run. How ironic since ZLMB was started as a direct result of how many LDS were treated on the Tanner board and it seems the MDD is populated by many defenders who came to ZLMB after the Tanner board purge.

I was just thinking the same thing.

You know, Jason, this is really scary. Could we be twins separated at birth?

I doubt the board will be around much longer. Participants can only take that kind of abuse for so long before they find greener pastures.

I've participated in Mormon themed boards for 22 years now. I ran BBS's from 1982 to 1995 - and participated heavily on the packet networks from 1989 to 1995 when the Internet took over. Every time there has been heavy handed moderation, the board or forum just ends up withering away.

I've seen good Mormon forums where Mormons discuss their own religion and their own lives without worrying about critics. But it has been a very long time since that has happened. Mormon Discussions is the first board I've ever seen in my entire history of being online on forums (30 years now) where there has been NO moderation and both sides can discuss issues at hand. Big thanks to Shades for doing this! I don't even do this on my own forums because I try to foster more of a recovery atmosphere to invite people who are questioning. This place is too hostile for them - but they'll get banned at MAD.

As long as MAD is connected to FAIR, NWI and the old guard apologists, it can't survive. They take a hard line approach to Mormonism and like North Korea, dissent in any form is punished. They can't allow anyone to ask legitimate questions because the answers could lead to answers that would cause a member to leave the Cult. That can't be allowed. Anything that doesn't lead to the Cult is true is considered bad. What a way to live and think.

At MAD, you will obey or you will be punished. Hmmm, sounds like the Mormon Plan Of Salvation(TM)(R)(C) Intellectual Reserve, Inc.

MDB is definitely a unique experience. I am glad that I am a part of it. Thanks, Shades, for putting up with me as both a Moderator and a participant.

I think that each message board has their own unique crowd and goals. I also enjoy moderating for your board, Infy. And yes, your board has a different "feel". My private board does as well.

IMHO, there is room in the Internet universe for all types of message boards. As far as whether or not MDD will survive, I sort of disagree with you. I think that even if every single critic decided to cease participation, there are enough folks there who simply enjoy hearing themselves talk to allow MDD to continue to, maybe not thrive, but at least survive.

Could be! Stranger things have happened. Or we just are both so brilliant that we share the same thoughts.

Yes! Great minds!!

I like the laissez-faire moderation approach here. The group as a whole seems to do a pretty good job of self moderation.

The "Trailer Park" was coined by Dr. Shades himself. However, that little fact doesn't minimize the main fact that despicable things occur here on a routine basis. Which, of course, never troubled me personally despite my constant tongue-in-cheek whining which too many folks take seriously. Just the other day, my eleven year old son reading this board asked me why somebody wanted to wish me physical harm in prison and whether my parents were really married.

How many times are you going to say that your kids read this board and get confused about things like that? This has to be the third or fourth time I've seen you lie like this.

I think I just proved one of my points.

And you continue to prove our point about you, which is that you are a troll.

You are so full it. How many times will you accuse me of being a bad father just because I went gay and my wife left me after my kids were grown? You know nothing but are full of accusations. Liz steps in everytime you do that.

You're a lousy father, botboy and you probably abuse your own kids in God only knows what way. There. How do you like it, punk?

I hate you.

Paul O

You can think you have proven whatever you wish, I just want anyone who doesn't know you to realize that you spin these kind of lies often to lure people in an argument with you.

Once again, called a child abuser on this forum. I'll take this one in stride, this time.

I think my comments about your past related to your public disclosure about your wife and kids, and why you would make that a matter of discussion is beyond me. Had any one of us here boasted that he or she had left our spouse of our youth for another, more modern and hip version, there'd be eyebrows raised. It doesn't matter to me whether you're gay or not. But, hey, that is beyond me and I only wish you happiness in what you have chosen to do, so please accept my apologies for responding to your discussion about your family.

I do like you and have followed your posts for years.

Then don't argue with me. I've always thought very well of your posts.

The simple truth here is that this site is what it is. You all should not be apologetic for it nor blame others for it as well. I encourage you all simply to engage Mormon posters in a polite manner if you want to attract the heavyweight apologists here for dialogue. The same, of course, goes for the other board.

You can he funny at times..... in a twisted sort of way....like you are being above.

Hell, no. I don't accept your apology and I hate you.

You make me sick.

Paul O