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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:51 am 
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Harmony posted a link to an article in the Salt Lake Tribune where they quoted MD and MAD poster Droopy in an article. I think this is an excellent way to let the public know what the members are thinking. Perhaps future article can include Droopy, Bcspace and others as well.

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Uh, do you have a link to the story?

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Harmony posted a link to an article in the Salt Lake Tribune where they quoted MD and MAD poster Droopy in an article. I think this is an excellent way to let the public know what the members are thinking. Perhaps future article can include Droopy, Bcspace and others as well.

What was the article about? Lunatics in the church?

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Not to worry. I've already posted comments in the sltrib and my word does not change between here and there.
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I was fascinated to read how Droopy was quoted in the article. Too bad it didn't post a follow-up on how the MAD thread from which it quoted Droopy concluded (with him pretty much being left with nothing to say in trying to defend his totally non-LDS-based views on environmentalism).

It's also interesting to note that Droopy didn't follow up on the thread on NARTH/homosexuality, here (I'd be willing to bet Droop is a gay man living the LDS lifestyle--AKA denying his homosexuality).

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http://www.sltrib.com/ci_14984487?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com

Droopy had a very fine and cromulent quote. Extreme "environmentalism" is certainly inconsistent with the gospel. A steward is certainly not defined that way. But conservation can certainly be wthin the bounds of the gospel.

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What is the deal on this? Why is a, presumably, reputable newspaper in Salt Lake City quote mining internet message boards?

This just seems a bit weird. We're being watched...

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What is the deal on this? Why is a, presumably, reputable newspaper in Salt Lake City quote mining internet message boards?

This just seems a bit weird. We're being watched...


Perhaps someone procrastinated and had to scramble to get an article together.

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Droopy had a very fine and cromulent quote.

I love that you used this particular made up word to describe a Droopy quote. How apropos!

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I love that you used this particular made up word to describe a Droopy quote. How apropos!


I find neologisms to be both humorous and useful though of course one might not see the same humor as I do.

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I was fascinated to read how Droopy was quoted in the article. Too bad it didn't post a follow-up on how the MAD thread from which it quoted Droopy concluded (with him pretty much being left with nothing to say in trying to defend his totally non-LDS-based views on environmentalism).

It's also interesting to note that Droopy didn't follow up on the thread on NARTH/homosexuality, here (I'd be willing to bet Droop is a gay man living the LDS lifestyle--AKA denying his homosexuality).

Darin


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Will you and the other board members please join me in fasting and prayer that Droopy, BCSpace, and Will Schryver will become the public face of Mormonism on the internet?

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http://www.sltrib.com/ci_14984487?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com

Droopy had a very fine and cromulent quote. Extreme "environmentalism" is certainly inconsistent with the gospel. A steward is certainly not defined that way. But conservation can certainly be wthin the bounds of the gospel.


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Hello, OFFICIAL CHURCH DOCTRINE [taps the sign]

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The Church does not:

* Endorse, promote or oppose political parties, candidates or platforms.
* Allow its church buildings, membership lists or other resources to be used for partisan political purposes.
* Attempt to direct its members as to which candidate or party they should give their votes to. This policy applies whether or not a candidate for office is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
* Attempt to direct or dictate to a government leader.

http://www.LDS.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/publ ... neutrality


It's a press release, so that means it trumps whatever prophets or apostles have taught.


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It's also interesting to note that Droopy didn't follow up on the thread on NARTH/homosexuality, here (I'd be willing to bet Droop is a gay man living the LDS lifestyle--AKA denying his homosexuality).

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Darin! I didn't know you were here.


You'll notice that Darin is not quite the same person here as he is on the MADB.

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Hello, OFFICIAL CHURCH DOCTRINE [taps the sign]


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It's a press release, so that means it trumps whatever prophets or apostles have taught.


It's doctrine and/or policy (Being published by the Church. see also "Official Church Resource" on the header) and therefore is what the prophets and apostles are teaching.

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It's doctrine and/or policy (Being published by the Church. see also "Official Church Resource" on the header) and therefore is what the prophets and apostles are teaching.


Which you are ignoring by dictating which political platforms are acceptable for members of the Church.

I surely am glad, though, that you have accepted that under your definition of official church doctrine, Ezra Taft Benson's teaching, even that you can't dismiss the words of a prophet as "not a commandment" is official church doctrine. Isn't it wonderful? Isn't it marvelous? No more of that picking apologists over the prophets, seers, and revelators for you!

P.S. Obviously I don't notice Darin being different here, since I just barely found out he was here.


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It's doctrine and/or policy (Being published by the Church. see also "Official Church Resource" on the header) and therefore is what the prophets and apostles are teaching.

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Which you are ignoring by dictating which political platforms are acceptable for members of the Church.


I haven't ignored anything. I'm merely comparing existing doctrine with various political philosophies and simply note that a Democrat couldn't make it through a TR interview without lying (agreeing with and/or supporting groups that are opposed to the Church etc.).

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I haven't ignored anything. I'm merely comparing existing doctrine with various political philosophies and simply note that a Democrat couldn't make it through a TR interview without lying (agreeing with and/or supporting groups that are opposed to the Church etc.).


But apparently morons can ...

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I love that you used this particular made up word to describe a Droopy quote. How apropos!


I find neologisms to be both humorous and useful though of course one might not see the same humor as I do.


Did you see the "malamanteau" thing the other day? That was simply brilliant.

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This made me LOL. (That the newspaper is quoting people posting under aliases on an Internet message board. There wasn't anything particularly funny about the story or the quote from Droopy.)

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I don't think quoting the online posters is that weird beyond the attribution being to a moniker. I think the reporter was trying to present the "green" move as kind of cool and unexpected, and then to set up strawman naysayers that come across as total nutjobs. Who better to recruit to this end than Droopy?

You've got one nutcase who says the Church is conspiring with Satanic environmentalists, and another who says the Church would never conspire with Satanic environmentalists.

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I haven't ignored anything. I'm merely comparing existing doctrine with various political philosophies and simply note that a Democrat couldn't make it through a TR interview without lying (agreeing with and/or supporting groups that are opposed to the Church etc.).


Huh. Good to see you're not apostate. You know, not contradicting Church leaders and official policy and all that.

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The LDS Church, through a high-ranking leader, is making its strongest public statement to date about the need for political diversity among members, while expressing concerns the Republican Party is becoming the "church party."

"There is sort of a division along Mormon/non-Mormon, Republican/Democratic lines," says Elder Marlin Jensen, a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy. "We regret that more than anything -- that there would become a church party and a non-church party. That would be the last thing that we would want to have happen."

Jensen said major national political parties may take stands that do not coincide with teachings of the 10 million-member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but that should not put them out of bounds for members.

A former attorney and lifelong Democrat, Jensen was careful in his comments not to suggest an official LDS preference for any political party but to maintain the church's traditional stand of partisan neutrality.

The First Quorum of the Seventy is the third tier in LDS Church leadership after the Quorum of Twelve Apostles and the governing First Presidency.

Jensen for the past three years has been a member of the church's Public Affairs Committee. He was designated by church officials to respond to The Salt Lake Tribune's request for an interview on the topic of partisan imbalance in Utah and among LDS members.

The Tribune's inquiry came on the heels of two significant developments: Utah Democrats' unprecedented failure to field a candidate in a congressional race and a statement from the LDS First Presidency -- read over pulpits in January -- urging members to seek elective office.

In an hourlong interview at the church's worldwide headquarters in downtown Salt Lake City arranged and overseen by LDS media-relations director Mike Otterson, Jensen discussed leaders' views about the seeming demise of two-party politics among members. Among the concerns he aired:

-- The LDS Church's reputation as a one-party monolith is damaging in the long run because of the seesaw fortunes of the national political parties.

-- The overwhelming Republican bent of LDS members in Utah and the Intermountain West undermines the checks-and-balances principle of democratic government.

-- Any notion that it is impossible to be a Democrat and a good Mormon is wrongheaded and should be "obliterated."

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