What is anti-mormonism?

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Ray A wrote:An anti-Mormon is someone obsessed with criticising Mormonism, or individual Mormons. Someone who has a "churning in the gut" at anything Mormon. For example, the criticisms of Dan Peterson, and Juliann, on this board, are obsessive. Have the critics heard of "live and let live"? Why not give it a break, eh?




Hi Ray. Maybe, in some people's views, criticizing people is not cool. But, to say that criticizing Juilann is an example of anti-Mormonism, is, well...a little over the top. Perhaps it should be given a break for other reasons, but not because it is anti-Mormonism. I wouldn't give Juliann that much credit.

Just my .02. I hope all is well in Australia.
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gramps wrote:Hi Ray. Maybe, in some people's views, criticizing people is not cool. But, to say that criticizing Juilann is an example of anti-Mormonism, is, well...a little over the top. Perhaps it should be given a break for other reasons, but not because it is anti-Mormonism. I wouldn't give Juliann that much credit.

Just my .02. I hope all is well in Australia.


I don't see the point in making it personal, but I agree that disliking someone's posting style does not make one anti-Mormon.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
bcspace wrote:Most, if not all the people on this board who disagree with the LDS Church, in my experience so far, are antiMormon.


Who on this board isn't an anti-Mormon?


Not me. I am however, a damned hypocrite.


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gramps wrote:

Hi Ray. Maybe, in some people's views, criticizing people is not cool. But, to say that criticizing Juilann is an example of anti-Mormonism, is, well...a little over the top. Perhaps it should be given a break for other reasons, but not because it is anti-Mormonism. I wouldn't give Juliann that much credit.

Just my .02. I hope all is well in Australia.


I think you are right, gramps. But the criticism of individuals is obsessive.

Pehaps this is the key to lightening up:

Americans: Seem to think that poverty and failure are morally suspect.
Canadians: Seem to believe that wealth and success are morally suspect.
Brits: Seem to believe that wealth, poverty, success, and failure are inherited.
Aussies: Seem to think that none of this matters after several beers.


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Ray A wrote:
gramps wrote:

Hi Ray. Maybe, in some people's views, criticizing people is not cool. But, to say that criticizing Juilann is an example of anti-Mormonism, is, well...a little over the top. Perhaps it should be given a break for other reasons, but not because it is anti-Mormonism. I wouldn't give Juliann that much credit.

Just my .02. I hope all is well in Australia.


I think you are right, gramps. But the criticism of individuals is obsessive.

Pehaps this is the key to lightening up:

Americans: Seem to think that poverty and failure are morally suspect.
Canadians: Seem to believe that wealth and success are morally suspect.
Brits: Seem to believe that wealth, poverty, success, and failure are inherited.
Aussies: Seem to think that none of this matters after several beers.


Life is short: Enjoy it.


Loved it! Maybe I should move to Australia. I think I would fit right in.
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Ray A wrote:
Americans: Seem to think that poverty and failure are morally suspect.
Canadians: Seem to believe that wealth and success are morally suspect.
Brits: Seem to believe that wealth, poverty, success, and failure are inherited.
Aussies: Seem to think that none of this matters after several beers.


That is so true.

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Anti Mormon? What makes an "Uncle Mormon"? Roger

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truth dancer wrote:Hi MG...

It just seems that leaders suggest members "stay away from anti material"... what does this mean?


MG: hi TD. I'm somewhat perplexed as to your comment made above. I see essays such as this:

http://www.lightplanet.com/Mormons/resp ... ns_EOM.htm

I see Elder Nelson concluding by making the comment:

"Church leaders have consistently appealed to the fairness of readers and urged them to examine the Book of Mormon and other latter-day scriptures and records for themselves rather than to prejudge the Church based on anti-Mormon publications. "

And then I see web pages such as this:

http://www.lightplanet.com/Mormons/resp ... /index.htm

which give members "ammunition" against so-called anti-mormonism...but I'm finding it difficult to find counsel from church leaders specifically admonishing members to "stay away from anti material". It may be there, but I don't know that I've seen it.

In regards to online use I've heard them counsel against online pornography, but that's about it.

Could you point me in the right direction?

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MG

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Hi MG...

Lets go with this quote...


"Church leaders have consistently appealed to the fairness of readers and urged them to examine the Book of Mormon and other latter-day scriptures and records for themselves rather than to prejudge the Church based on anti-Mormon publications. "


About what is he talking?

Is an anti-Mormon publication anything that is discussing the church but is not promoting the church? If it is true but not faith promoting is it considered "anti-Mormon"? I'm sure there are a few things out there that are written about the church and not true... I however have never seen such material.

Would one be wise to stay away from true material if it is not faith promoting?

What do you consider "anti-Mormon" material?

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Re: What is anti-mormonism?

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truth dancer wrote:Well what is it? :-)

It is discussing the fact that Joseph Smith looked into a hat with a stone to translate plates which may or may not have been real?

Is it discussing Joseph Smith's behavior regarding marrying girls as young as fourteen, marrying women who are already married? marrying women when he was already married? His lying? Deceiving? Coercing? Manipulating?

Is it discussing the fact that there are some issues and inconsistencies in the Book of Mormon suggesting it may not be what leaders have claimed it to be?

Is it discussing some teachings and practices of Mormonism that are unhealthy and certainly not in the best interest of families and individuals?

Is it discussing and admitting the problems with the Book of Abraham?

Is it discussing the questionable behavior of LDS leaders?

Is it discussing problems and admitting mistakes so new improvements can be made?

If something is true but not faith promoting is it "anti" material?

What about when people discuss possible problems with the changing teachings and doctrines of the church?

I would suggest that the truth should not be considered anti-mormonism but it seems that anything that is not faith promoting qualifies as anti.

What do you think? ~dancer~


I answer your question here: Anti-Mormonism Defined

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

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Re: What is anti-mormonism?

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wenglund wrote:
truth dancer wrote:Well what is it? :-)

It is discussing the fact that Joseph Smith looked into a hat with a stone to translate plates which may or may not have been real?

Is it discussing Joseph Smith's behavior regarding marrying girls as young as fourteen, marrying women who are already married? marrying women when he was already married? His lying? Deceiving? Coercing? Manipulating?

Is it discussing the fact that there are some issues and inconsistencies in the Book of Mormon suggesting it may not be what leaders have claimed it to be?

Is it discussing some teachings and practices of Mormonism that are unhealthy and certainly not in the best interest of families and individuals?

Is it discussing and admitting the problems with the Book of Abraham?

Is it discussing the questionable behavior of LDS leaders?

Is it discussing problems and admitting mistakes so new improvements can be made?

If something is true but not faith promoting is it "anti" material?

What about when people discuss possible problems with the changing teachings and doctrines of the church?

I would suggest that the truth should not be considered anti-mormonism but it seems that anything that is not faith promoting qualifies as anti.

What do you think? ~dancer~


I answer your question here: Anti-Mormonism Defined

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Ha! Yes, I remember that definition! According to the language in your text, one has to view the LDS Church as a weak, poor little victim in order for your definition to hold up. I recall that you left that discussion in an angry, red-faced huff. I was awfully sad about that.

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