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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:28 pm 
On the thread, "Capricious Banning", there were some points made that I thought might be wise to post in a separate thread:

moksha wrote:
My concern at this moment is for all those other MAD posters who must endure the continuing capriciousness of the MAD moderation. This board could stand as a viable alternative, but I am still concerned about two things:

Profanity and ad hominem attacks on this Board - if they would be relegated to the Telestial forum ASAP, then this board's viability as a more idea friendly board would allow them to migrate easier. Right now, If Liz could keep an eye on both Vegas and Coggins, this would help a great deal. I would never wish to hinder their speech in the appropriate forum that allows for both profanity and insults, but I would like to see these user enticements guarded in this and the Celestial Forum.

My view of the Celestial forum, is that it is reserved for intellectual conversations, whereas this one should be for everyday concerns without posters feeling uncomfortable. I view the Telestial forum as an anything goes kind of place where one is free to indulge their raunchier side.


And that's exactly what Shades and I are attempting to do. As busy as the boards have been, sometimes it's not easy to get into every thread, but between the two of us, we give it a good college try! :)

Mok, if you, or anyone else on the board has concerns about a particular post, please PM me or Shades and we'll look at it. Again, be patient. We both have "real world" jobs and responsibilities, but we do try to keep fairly close tabs on the board.

Also...as has been demonstrated...Shades and I will normally err on the side of free speech as opposed to overt censorship.

I think we struck a good balance with the Kathy Worthington Memorial Thread situation. I regret, however, that rampant insults were flying, and there was a huge dramatic mess before I, or Shades, had a chance to view what was happening.

One thing that Shades, Keene, and I do expect, guys, is that you act like adults.

Everyone gets grouchy or tired. I know that every once in a while, someone is going to have a bad day and pop off unnecessarily.

But take some time to READ what you have taken the time to write BEFORE hitting the "Submit" button.

The beauty of a forum like this is that we actually have an opportunity to formulate our thoughts before we present them.

OK...I'm stepping off of my soap box now. ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:47 pm 
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I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


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why me wrote:
I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


The fact that you can express such feelings and expect no repercussions speaks volumes about the overall good and objective moderation that (already) exists here.

It can get out of line at times - but I have rarely seen this in the Cel forum. and if it does, the thread is usually moved.

It is hard to find a good mix, and I think this forum is slightly "anti" for lack of a better word, but overall, it doesn't display the hatred and shrillness of RfM, or the overboard moderation of MAD...it is a happy medium.

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I would like to point out that moderation is not something that Liz, Shades and I do alone. It is YOUR responsibility, everyone, to moderate the forum as you would like. Moderate yourselves, and if something crosses a line, let us know. We're not your mommies and daddies here. This is a place of peers, not of hirearchy and rank.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:10 am 
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Notoriuswun wrote:
why me wrote:
I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


The fact that you can express such feelings and expect no repercussions speaks volumes about the overall good and objective moderation that (already) exists here.

It can get out of line at times - but I have rarely seen this in the Cel forum. and if it does, the thread is usually moved.

It is hard to find a good mix, and I think this forum is slightly "anti" for lack of a better word, but overall, it doesn't display the hatred and shrillness of RfM, or the overboard moderation of MAD...it is a happy medium.

Perhaps this is because we are allowed to discuss EVERYTHING Mormon here, including how people would crap with one piece garments.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:03 am 
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Perhaps this is because we are allowed to discuss EVERYTHING Mormon here, including how people would crap with one piece garments.


And it is really too bad that you are not adult or mature enough to keep your potty mouth in the telestial forum. And you are the top offender in this. Why don't you be a nice little boy and try a bit harder to keep your raving obscenites there. You are fairly unrestrained there. It would make the board much better.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:38 am 
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Polygamy Porter wrote:
Perhaps this is because we are allowed to discuss EVERYTHING Mormon here, including how people would crap with one piece garments.


Apparently Polyg. is stuck in the Anal Stage and can't get out.

Polyg., I think you can figure it out for yourself--they aren't glued on and they were designed just like other underwear of the day. They had a trap-door. Maybe you should think a bit before typing.

You might also want to consider the audience you are trying to entertain...this type of humor is best suited for those who would appreciate it in the Telestial forum.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:07 pm 
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Polygamy Porter wrote:
Notoriuswun wrote:
why me wrote:
I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


The fact that you can express such feelings and expect no repercussions speaks volumes about the overall good and objective moderation that (already) exists here.

It can get out of line at times - but I have rarely seen this in the Cel forum. and if it does, the thread is usually moved.

It is hard to find a good mix, and I think this forum is slightly "anti" for lack of a better word, but overall, it doesn't display the hatred and shrillness of RfM, or the overboard moderation of MAD...it is a happy medium.

Perhaps this is because we are allowed to discuss EVERYTHING Mormon here, including how people would crap with one piece garments.


The same way women do it when wearing a body suit. Why is this important?

Sheesh.

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why me wrote:
I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


It is unfortunate that "disrespect to the LDS church" can fall under any type of criticism or historical observation.
For some LDS, anything morally related to the behavior of Joseph Smith is offensive to discuss. Which is why some will not ever leave the protection of the mods. on MAD. I haven't seen anything worthy of being called "offensive" discussed here on the Terrestrial board or Celestial. (unsure of Telestial)
I think the critics have been very respectful of things LDS hold sacred. (temple ordinances, Jesus Christ, Christian values and morals)

I find it highly offensive to hear LDS defend polygamy, and other immoral behavior, but I would not leave the board over it or report it to a moderator.
I also find it cruel and offensive to hear LDS mock the pain of those who have left the church or gone inactive. The majority of critics I have seen here did not desire to leave the church and then looked for ways to find fault with it. Yet, we continue to see such accusations by posters that believe it is their fault they don't believe the church is what it claims to be.

Respect is not given to critics, yet they remain participants in disucssion with self righteous LDS who believe they are wicked. They don't whine about it and go running to the mods everytime somebody offends them.

I hope we see more LDS come over like Jason Bourne, and Liz, who can discuss history with honesty. Those are the only type of LDS, IMO, who will ever have an impact on those struggling to make sense of history, and still remain a believer.


MAD is becoming more of a fellowhip board already. (its been boring there the last few months)
I believe many of the LDS on the MAD board enjoy the debate and will find themselves here eventually if they continue to ban so many of the critics.

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Polygamy Porter wrote:
Notoriuswun wrote:
why me wrote:
I have expressed the same concerns as Moksha on a separate thread. The board will need some moderating as the tempo of posters picks up. Hard to find a balance between critic and LDS but I do know that most LDS will not hang around a board that shows disrepect to the LDS church. However, it is fortunate about the choice of venue between the celestial, terrestial and telestial. Without such differentation, this board would collaspe into a reformed RFM board. And there are some critics who do seem to have a RFM 'hangover'...but still indulge in a sip now and then on this board.


The fact that you can express such feelings and expect no repercussions speaks volumes about the overall good and objective moderation that (already) exists here.

It can get out of line at times - but I have rarely seen this in the Cel forum. and if it does, the thread is usually moved.

It is hard to find a good mix, and I think this forum is slightly "anti" for lack of a better word, but overall, it doesn't display the hatred and shrillness of RfM, or the overboard moderation of MAD...it is a happy medium.

Perhaps this is because we are allowed to discuss EVERYTHING Mormon here, including how people would crap with one piece garments.


This post cracked my up. One Piece underwear how funny...Underwear and crap sounds like a Southpark Episode to me.
I have not been here for a few days because I often wonder why I talk to people I do not know. Now I know why. I get a good laugh most of the time by some of the posts.

Polygamy Porter and the rest of us heathens are enjoying HELL you others are just jealous cause you can't wait to join us.

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