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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:03 pm 
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https://www.eastidahonews.com/2019/11/f ... EWCGxVK07A

IDAHO FALLS — A retired Idaho Falls gynecologist sued last year for allegedly using his own sperm to inseminate a woman admitted to the wrongdoing in sworn testimony.

Dr. Gerald E. Mortimer, the accused physician, previously denied having any memory of using his sperm to inseminate the eggs of patients seeking fertility treatments. But now Mortimer has confessed not only to inseminating one patient in this way, but multiple, according to court documents recently discovered by EastIdahoNews.com.

Kelli Rowlette, a Washington resident and Mortimer’s biological child, filed the initial case in March of last year. Rowlette is the child he fathered with one of his patients, Sally Ashby. Ashby and Howard Fowler, who were married in 1980 when the incident took place, sought fertility treatments from Mortimer when they were unable to conceive a child. Fowler and a donor both provided sperm for Mortimer to use in the insemination process. However, Mortimer, without Ashby or Fowler’s knowledge or consent, used his own sperm instead.


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Gerald E. Mortimer, the retired obstetrician/gynecologist who allegedly used his own sperm to impregnate a patient undergoing artificial insemination, served as president of an LDS Church temple and a church mission in the Philippines.

A lawsuit filed last week in U.S. District Court in Idaho names Mortimer, Linda G. McKinnon Mortimer, and Obstetrics and Gynecology Associates of Idaho Falls as defendants, accusing them of fraud and medical negligence.

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This dude was serious about Section 132. I wonder if he checked with his wife first. :eek:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:05 pm 
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What's the problem? It was white and delight-some sperm, right?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:10 am 
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This is not the first time an LDS doctor has been accused of doing this. However, if all the woman asked for was donor sperm then, if he was healthy and intelligent, what is the problem?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:56 am 
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Just trying to spread righteous seed, right? Not sure why this Temple President decided to follow the path of another LDS doctor Cecil Jacobson who was sentenced to five years in prison for the same thing.

Temple President Mortimer's legal hopes in Idaho will hinge on his being able to prove he paid a full tithe on the money he saved on sperm samples.

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A Washington state woman says she was shocked to learn through an Ancestry.com test that her biological father was her parent’s fertility doctor.

Kelli Rowlette, 36, took legal action against reproductive specialist Dr. Gerald E. Mortimer after he was revealed as her DNA match through the site, the Daily Beast reported.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/my-biolog ... ility-doc/

Oh, the irony...

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In his deposition, Mortimer admits to masturbating at his office and giving a nurse the semen samples that were to be used. Mortimer confessed to using his own sperm at least twice, but less than 10 times to inseminate patients. He said no one else in his office knew about the practice, and he doesn’t recall when he began or stopped using his own semen.

He was employed at Obstetrics and Gynecology Associates of Idaho Falls from 1977 to 2005. Court documents indicate he left the practice because he feared he would be caught.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2019/11/f ... -children/

Interestingly, he was called as a Mission President in 2005 - the same year he fled Obstetrics and Gynecology Associates of Idaho Falls in fear of getting caught. I guess hiding out in the Philippines at the Church’s expense seemed a good option, especially as a Church Apostle found him worthy to do so.

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Philippines San Pablo | Gerald E. Mortimer

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e?lang=eng

Did the Church know about his wrongdoing at the point they hid
him away in the Phillipines? Which Apostle called him, and will they resign on the basis they don’t have the spirit of discernment?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:24 am 
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Again, what is the major problem? Thousands of men around the USA donate sperm, so the act of donating sperm is not in question. The patients knew they were getting donor sperm, and they would never know the identity of the donor. And that means any guy they see at the mall could, in theory, be the father of their child/children. So the fact that the doctor used his sperm, rather than some random packet of frozen sperm, should not really be much of an issue unless he has some sort of genetic disorder.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:17 am 
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Fiannan wrote:
Again, what is the major problem?

Sounds like you are making a Trumpanistic argument.

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I don't think we should jerk this doctor around after he pulled off this stunt.

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Fiannan wrote:
Again, what is the major problem? Thousands of men around the USA donate sperm, so the act of donating sperm is not in question. The patients knew they were getting donor sperm, and they would never know the identity of the donor. And that means any guy they see at the mall could, in theory, be the father of their child/children. So the fact that the doctor used his sperm, rather than some random packet of frozen sperm, should not really be much of an issue unless he has some sort of genetic disorder.

That's just it. He used his own baby batter instead of the husband's.

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lostindc wrote:
I don't think we should jerk this doctor around after he pulled off this stunt.

I see what you did there, twice.

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Another news outlet reports that this doctor, uh, extracted the necessary fluids while driving his vehicle.

A cop saw this, pulled him over, then wrote him a ticket for carjacking.

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Another news outlet reports that this doctor, uh, extracted the necessary fluids while driving his vehicle.

A cop saw this, pulled him over, then wrote him a ticket for carjacking.

Before Fiannan asks, what is wrong with multitasking?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:43 am 
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fiannan wrote:
Again, what is the major problem? Thousands of men around the USA donate sperm, so the act of donating sperm is not in question. The patients knew they were getting donor sperm, and they would never know the identity of the donor. And that means any guy they see at the mall could, in theory, be the father of their child/children. So the fact that the doctor used his sperm, rather than some random packet of frozen sperm, should not really be much of an issue unless he has some sort of genetic disorder.

That's just it. He used his own baby batter instead of the husband's.


That would make a difference. If he was supposed to use the husband's sperm for insemination then that would be inexcusable. However, if he was supposed to use an anonymous sperm donor then it would make no difference if he used sample #39870 or his own.


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Fiannan wrote:
If he was supposed to use the husband's sperm for insemination then that would be inexcusable. However, if he was supposed to use an anonymous sperm donor then it would make no difference if he used sample #39870 or his own.

Why that is a very un-Christian thing to say. Joseph's baby batter wasn't good enough to father the body of Jesus. It had to be one of the Father's swimmers to get inside Mary's egg.

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Fiannan wrote:
However, if he was supposed to use an anonymous sperm donor then it would make no difference if he used sample #39870 or his own.


It makes a lot of difference. Most are looking for certain traits or want to avoid certain traits. They have a right to pick certain traits which is denied if a doctor gives them his own. It is also highly unethical and illegal.

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Fiannan wrote:
However, if he was supposed to use an anonymous sperm donor then it would make no difference if he used sample #39870 or his own.


I am not sure of the process, but I would think that there are many steps to screen sperm donors, i.e. medical history, genetic testing, age, etc. The doctor creating his own samples in his office goes against this practice. But the biggest issue I have with this Dr. is that this behavior is just unethical, even if it was legal. Who knows how many kids he has running around, and the ramifications if they were to possibly procreate?


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I have a question wrote:
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A Washington state woman says she was shocked to learn through an Ancestry.com test that her biological father was her parent’s fertility doctor.

Kelli Rowlette, 36, took legal action against reproductive specialist Dr. Gerald E. Mortimer after he was revealed as her DNA match through the site, the Daily Beast reported.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/my-biolog ... ility-doc/

Oh, the irony...

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In his deposition, Mortimer admits to masturbating at his office and giving a nurse the semen samples that were to be used. Mortimer confessed to using his own sperm at least twice, but less than 10 times to inseminate patients. He said no one else in his office knew about the practice, and he doesn’t recall when he began or stopped using his own semen.

He was employed at Obstetrics and Gynecology Associates of Idaho Falls from 1977 to 2005. Court documents indicate he left the practice because he feared he would be caught.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2019/11/f ... -children/

Interestingly, he was called as a Mission President in 2005 - the same year he fled Obstetrics and Gynecology Associates of Idaho Falls in fear of getting caught. I guess hiding out in the Philippines at the Church’s expense seemed a good option, especially as a Church Apostle found him worthy to do so.

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Philippines San Pablo | Gerald E. Mortimer

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e?lang=eng

Did the Church know about his wrongdoing at the point they hid
him away in the Phillipines? Which Apostle called him, and will they resign on the basis they don’t have the spirit of discernment?


Gotta wonder if he "blessed" some of the sisters in the Philippines....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:00 am 
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Another news outlet reports that this doctor, uh, extracted the necessary fluids while driving his vehicle.

A cop saw this, pulled him over, then wrote him a ticket for carjacking.

Before Fiannan asks, what is wrong with multitasking?

Distracted driving and the object of affection are wrong. One time a guy followed me on the freeway doing that - nasty.


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