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 Post subject: Yep that's about right
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:58 pm 
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I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:22 pm 
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Now apologists respond by saying, " The Church has an extensive welfare program that takes care of members"
http://en.fairmormon.org/Criticism_of_M ... nk/Tithing

However, it's welfare program is not that extensive in Mexico and South America, members in need hardly get anything in Latin America.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:53 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:03 pm 
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Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png


Faqs sure as heck isn't going without food, water, food, shelter, food, utilities, food.

And food.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:14 pm 
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png


Faqs sure as heck isn't going without food, water, food, shelter, food, utilities, food.

And food.

Heh....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:45 pm 
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Now apologists respond by saying, " The Church has an extensive welfare program that takes care of members"
http://en.fairmormon.org/Criticism_of_M ... nk/Tithing

However, it's welfare program is not that extensive in Mexico and South America, members in need hardly get anything in Latin America.


LDS Latinos will receive their reward in the Celestial Kingdom. It's much more cost effective that way.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:11 am 
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Quasimodo wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:
Now apologists respond by saying, " The Church has an extensive welfare program that takes care of members"
http://en.fairmormon.org/Criticism_of_M ... nk/Tithing

However, it's welfare program is not that extensive in Mexico and South America, members in need hardly get anything in Latin America.


LDS Latinos will receive their reward in the Celestial Kingdom. It's much more cost effective that way.


LOL

but seriously, it's bulls*** that the church helps LDS living in the USA much more than it helps LDS in Mexico and South America.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:09 am 
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Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
Being poor is not a virtue. You make it sound as if poverty is a virtue. If you think that poverty is a virtue, why don't you make yourself poor? What is a virtue is to be generous with the means we have to help those in need, not to make ourselves poor like them. And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:17 am 
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http://en.fairmormon.org/Criticism_of_M ... tion.3F.22

I feel dumber after following a link form that op. Thanks a lot!

I thought FairMormon was trying to get out of the ad hominem world? The first one I grab has no other answer.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:44 am 
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zerinus wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.
You sound like LDSFAQS. You must not know many other comparable organizations.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:12 am 
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zerinus wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.
No, more like this:
zerinus wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
Being poor is not a virtue. You make it sound as if poverty is a virtue. If you think that poverty is a virtue, why don't you make yourself poor? What is a virtue is to be generous with the means we have to help those in need, not to make ourselves poor like them. And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:49 am 
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zerinus wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
Being poor is not a virtue. You make it sound as if poverty is a virtue. If you think that poverty is a virtue, why don't you make yourself poor? What is a virtue is to be generous with the means we have to help those in need, not to make ourselves poor like them. And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.


Not one person on this forum is saying poverty is a virtue. Ministering to the poor is a virtue.

It's almost as if there were a teacher, a long time ago, that addressed this very issue...

Also please source your assertion about "... the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.".

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:04 am 
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zerinus wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:
I think the maker of this graphic got it about right

https://i.redd.it/fqw8wwfelz8y.png
Being poor is not a virtue. You make it sound as if poverty is a virtue. If you think that poverty is a virtue, why don't you make yourself poor? What is a virtue is to be generous with the means we have to help those in need, not to make ourselves poor like them. And the Church does that better than any other comparable organization I know.


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In a lecture given last month at the University of Oxford, Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles said that each year The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spends about $40 million on welfare, humanitarian and other LDS Church-sponsored projects around the world and has done so for more than 30 years.

That would account for approximately $1.2 billion on welfare and humanitarian efforts over the past 30 years.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865657898/LDS-Church-welfare-humanitarian-efforts-average-40-million-per-year-apostle-says.html

There are 108 General Authorities each getting $120,000 per annum (plus housing, plus medical plus all sorts of other perks and benefits) = $13,000,000 per year just on stipends.

$40,000,000 globally on welfare, humanitarian etc
$13,000,000 +++ on the pay and benefits of "There are currently, by my count, 108 General Authorities. That’s 0.00317647058 of the number of local unit leaders (bishops and stake, district, and branch presidents) in the Church." (Who receive no remuneration whatsoever)

I'm betting it wouldn't take 20 minutes of your time to find 100 organisations that do better than that.

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